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15:18:13 <Northern_d2> 1
15:19:20 <EggplantN_Disc> Yo @hawc you hear me
15:19:25 <EggplantN_Disc> wait @hcross
15:22:46 <Kaz> lmao
15:22:49 <Kaz> you okay there
15:23:11 <EggplantN_Disc> ayyyy
15:23:17 <EggplantN_Disc> im good ka
15:57:17 <EggplantN2> h
15:58:45 <Jake> are you making like a discord bridge?
15:59:12 <EggplantN2> kinda, sadly hcross and myself tend to be out a lot and on discord to be shouted at
16:10:36 <JAA> Ew, bridges...
16:10:44 <EggplantN_d2> Yeah 😦 sadly
16:10:49 <EggplantN_d2> Mobile user and all
16:10:58 <JAA> Bouncer + IRC client?
16:11:11 <EggplantN_d2> Effort when I'm usually on discord 95% of the day
16:13:42 <JAA> Are you bridging individual users or a channel?
16:14:00 <EggplantN_d2> A channel.
16:14:04 <JAA> Also, fix your bridge first in a test channel instead of spamming all these messages.
16:14:09 <EggplantN_d2> Oh I have
16:14:16 <EggplantN_d2> Woah okay yes
16:14:19 <EggplantN_d2> Sorry that just happened
16:14:21 <EggplantN_d2> its fixed now
16:14:47 <EggplantN_d2> that was me just removing the debug, anyway glad to be back now I have a bit more time
16:17:37 <JAA> What does this mean for all IRC users' content? Discord's terms require you to grant them a catch-all licence to do whatever they want with the content, and I definitely don't agree with that.
16:18:24 <EggplantN_d2> it wipes itself after 7 days.
16:18:50 <EggplantN_d2> I have a cron/bot that removes all the messages >7days old from discord
16:19:27 <EggplantN_d2> It's purely since Harry/Me spend a lot of time out and about and usually relaying messages through discord to fusl/kaz/kiska and then to you here. This just makes it 100x easier
16:19:31 <JAA> That wasn't my question though. I'm referring to this part of the terms: "you grant to us a perpetual, nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, and worldwide license to use, host, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display Your Content in connection with operating and providing the Service."
16:19:56 <EggplantN_d2> Oh my bad I get you now. Yeah
16:20:54 <Somebody2> What's the definition of "Your Content"?
16:21:42 <JAA> "Any data, text, graphics, photographs and their selection and arrangement, and any other materials uploaded to the Service by you is “Your Content.”"
16:22:21 <JAA> Actually, this part is relevant as well since it's the bridge that is uploading the content to Discord: "You represent and warrant that Your Content is original to you and that you exclusively own the rights to such content, including the right to grant all of the rights and licenses in these Terms without the Company incurring any third party obligations or liability arising out of its exercise of
16:22:27 <JAA> such rights and licenses."
16:22:28 <JAA> The bridge doesn't have those rights.
16:22:56 <Somebody2> Yeah, so that technically means that saying: 'I quote "Never gone to give you up"' breaks the terms.
16:23:11 <Somebody2> Not to mention uploading any meme image.
16:23:18 <JAA> Yep
16:23:21 <OrIdow6> In any case, I don't think the people on the other end of the bridge (i.e. us) can be parties to this
16:23:51 <JAA> OrIdow6: Well yeah, I guess it means that the bridge('s owner) is violating the terms and all IRC users' rights.
16:24:13 <Somebody2> Also, nearly all users of Discord.
16:24:26 <Somebody2> Since nearly everyone quotes things.
16:24:36 <JAA> Correct.
16:24:52 <OrIdow6> Any more than someone uploading a movie to a pirate site puts the movie's creators in a contract per the terms of the pirate site
16:24:53 <Somebody2> So basically -- please don't use Discord.
16:24:54 <JAA> Thanks for pointing that out actually. Another thing to add to my "why Discord sucks" list.
16:25:32 <Somebody2> Regarding the bridge, if it was changed to merely an alarm system, it would satify this.
16:26:02 <Somebody2> i.e. when someone here says: "Poke HCross on Discord"
16:26:48 <Somebody2> the bridge would post, on Discord, the unique creative work of it's author, to wit: "Hey, HCross -- some jackass from ArchiveTeam wants your attention!"
16:26:59 <Somebody2> it's -> its
16:27:16 <Somebody2> IDK if that would be still useful to you.
16:29:23 <JAA> If I'm reading it correctly, you can't even upload things whose copyright has expired.
16:29:29 <JAA> WTF Discord?
16:29:40 <kiska> Um ooof
16:33:33 <JAA> Added to https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/Discord
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