00:01:08 <h2ibot> Arkiver edited YouTube (+70, can also ask arkiver if something can be allowed): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50235&oldid=50177
00:02:08 <h2ibot> AdamSkI2003 edited Twitter (+108, added gallery-dl to the list of backup tools): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50237&oldid=50136
00:07:19 <OrIdow6> What's going on with Moodle?
00:09:51 <fireonlive> hmm
00:09:57 <fireonlive> good q
00:10:12 <fireonlive> maybe individual instances?
08:21:22 <Lord_Nightmare> did archiveteam ever do a mirror of the contents of macgui? the owner seems to have taken down the entire collection "in protest"
08:25:08 <imer> "In protest against the widespread commoditization of vintage Apple software and its subsequent devaluation, the Mac GUI Downloads collection is closed." what does that even mean lol
08:25:34 <imer> https://www.macgui.com/downloads/ ^
08:25:58 <imer> "Since other people are also offering downloads of this, I'm shutting down in protest" ??
08:32:08 <Lord_Nightmare> https://macgui.com/blogs/?e=504 seems to imply something more like:
08:32:24 <Lord_Nightmare>  "the community is gone and nobody is writing new software because the old software is still available, so i should take that away so people start writing new software for vintage macs again"
08:32:41 <Lord_Nightmare> That's like saying "people aren't writing enough new books, so let me burn down the library so they're FORCED to write new books"
08:33:25 <Lord_Nightmare> someone in 2019 had at least a partial archive of the apple2 and IIgs parts of macgui, which is ... some portion of the whole
08:33:48 <Lord_Nightmare> but i don't know if that person still has it
08:34:14 <Lord_Nightmare> see FOIA discord #chit-chat
08:35:17 <imer> "nobody is writing new software" for old macs? shock.
08:35:24 <Lord_Nightmare> exactly
08:35:49 <Lord_Nightmare> also, people ARE writing new software but mostly really niche things
08:36:27 <imer> i'm sure its fun if you're into old macs and software dev, but thats a niche of a niche kinda thing
08:38:10 <DigitalDragons> I see archivebot jobs from 2015 for macgui.com and www.macgui.com
08:39:46 <imer> oh, didnt check that far back on the wbm
08:39:55 <imer> https://web.archive.org/web/20151024211844/http://macgui.com/downloads/?mode=download&file_id=27879&n=e5eafa07cccb83c4e5bea5d65bf05083 no luck for the actual file though it seems
08:40:13 <imer> from https://web.archive.org/web/20151021172944/http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=27879
09:34:25 <Lord_Nightmare> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=269246#msg
09:34:35 <Lord_Nightmare> apparently macgui themselves had a torrent of the "vault"
09:34:39 <Lord_Nightmare> whatever that may be
09:45:32 <imer> was there ever a decision on running http://www.mexat.com/vb/ through AB btw? couldn't find anything in my logs
09:46:13 <imer> (closing out some of my notepad++ tabs and came across it)
09:47:03 <imer> don't think the specific list of posts was run through yet either?
10:08:58 <h2ibot> Exorcism uploaded File:Moodle-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AMoodle-screenshot.png
10:08:59 <h2ibot> Exorcism edited Moodle (+21): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50241&oldid=50232
13:05:42 <masterX244> Potential target pipeline jamming inbound soon. https cert of the s3 api endpoint server is expired
13:12:37 <HCross> ?
13:13:17 <imer> HCross: https://s3.us.archive.org
13:31:30 <nstrom|m> interesting, was wondering why optane9 was at -1 for a couple hours. maybe related
13:40:46 <nstrom|m> Valid until	Mon, 17 Jul 2023 11:43:00 UTC (expired 1 hour and 56 minutes ago)
14:56:05 <OrIdow6> Can we have a target on #wyspedaway please? Not urgent but it's otherwise ready
15:06:41 <kaz> looks like they've got the cert sorted at least
15:08:05 <kaz> hmm, they serve *.s3.us.archive.org in one place, and *.us.archive.org in others
16:12:58 <jonty> Hey, thought I'd best give you a heads up that it looks like Discogs is about to go down the toilet really fast. There's a thread about what's going on here: https://twitter.com/MikeSimonetti/status/1680798692066902016
16:13:24 <jonty> Losing that database would be an absolute tragedy
16:15:14 <nulldata> allaccess.com - A music and radio trade publication is shutting down August 15th. https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/229534/due-to-severe-financial-headwinds-all-access-will-
16:16:13 <nulldata> Looks like a lot of the content on the main site is login required. Also looks like they have a phpBB forum and another Wordpress blog
16:16:22 <nulldata> https://www.allaccess.com/forum/
16:16:27 <nulldata> https://music.allaccess.com/
16:32:06 <h2ibot> Yts98 edited Wysp (+123, Mark as in progress): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50242&oldid=50197
16:33:04 <JAA> jonty: Thanks to Twitter being Twitter, only the single tweet is publicly viewable given that link.
16:33:49 <jonty> oh my, apologies
16:33:52 <jonty> let me screenshot it
16:33:57 <thuban> https://nitter.cz/MikeSimonetti/status/1680798692066902016
16:35:35 <jonty> JAA: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GHXRw1XX/image.png
16:36:28 <JAA> I did discover the other day that Discogs is now completely unusable without JS. That may cause issues.
16:37:00 <JAA> Although at least the release pages still work.
16:37:18 <JAA> (As long as you don't want to look at the reviews, anyway.)
16:37:21 <jonty> They do have an API, but given the rate limits I think extracting the data from there is infeasible
16:38:41 <JAA> Yeah, that's a non-starter. They do still have the monthly dumps at least.
16:39:16 <JAA> https://data.discogs.com/
16:39:47 <jonty> Definitely worth backing that lot up
16:39:58 <JAA> A bunch of it is already mirrored to IA I believe.
16:40:05 <jonty> Ace
16:40:19 <JAA> Stopped in March 2021 it seems: https://archive.org/details/discogs-dumps?sort=-publicdate
16:43:08 <h2ibot> Arkiver edited Mastodon (-143, a blanket ban on any mastodon archiving is…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50243&oldid=49446
16:44:08 <h2ibot> DigitalDragon edited ZippCast (+72, add zippcast collection and archiving type): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50244&oldid=28905
16:44:09 <h2ibot> DigitalDragon edited Your Shot (+72, add archiveteam_yourshot for data): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50245&oldid=48084
17:25:11 <Exorcism|m> <h2ibot> "DigitalDragon edited ZippCast (+..." <- I wonder how many sites are trying to reproduce the youtube of 2010 lol
17:30:16 <h2ibot> Exorcism uploaded File:Yourshort-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AYourshort-screenshot.png
17:30:17 <h2ibot> Exorcism uploaded File:Uanic-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AUanic-screenshot.png
17:31:17 <h2ibot> Exorcism edited Your Shot (+34): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50248&oldid=50245
17:31:18 <h2ibot> Exorcism edited .укр (+31): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50249&oldid=48294
17:37:18 <h2ibot> JustAnotherArchivist edited Donate (+197): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50250&oldid=43043
17:40:50 <GinnyHuo717> Is it possible to request archival of a public form that may be at risk of being taken down?
17:41:27 <thuban> GinnyHuo717: yes, go for it
17:42:14 <GinnyHuo717> Geekhack was purchased a while ago by Massdrop, which is now under the ownership of Corsair.
17:42:15 <GinnyHuo717> https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/shopping/corsair-acquires-mechanical-keyboard-specialist-drop/ar-AA1dYvOB
17:42:20 <GinnyHuo717> https://geekhack.org/
17:42:59 <GinnyHuo717> There is no mention of it going away, but I am hopeful that it would be possible to preserve the contents.
17:43:50 <thuban> definitely, we do forums like this all the time
17:46:31 <thuban> i am checking to see which tooling is most appropriate, and will get back to you if you want to hang around
17:52:30 <GinnyHuo> Thank you so much!
17:53:12 <GinnyHuo> <3
17:53:24 <thuban> it's what we're here for! thanks for letting us know
17:55:41 <nstrom|m> https://drop.com/ for the main drop site too I suppose. good to know
17:55:58 <GinnyHuo> Good call on that one.
17:56:16 <nstrom|m> I've bought stuff from them before but they've pivoted into a weird super overpriced luxury IT vendor
17:56:33 <GinnyHuo> It feels that way for sure.
17:56:55 <GinnyHuo> I got so caught up in sixteen years' worth of mechanical keyboard community data suddenly disappearing that I completely overlooked Drop itself.
17:57:03 <nstrom|m> they started out as "massdrop" and did group buys where if they got X preorders for something they'd order it
17:58:48 <nstrom|m> but now it's nearly all status symbol keyboards and super expensive audiophile gear 🤷
17:59:11 <GinnyHuo> Yeah, it is a huge shame.
17:59:33 <GinnyHuo> I miss the days when they had a cool assortment of things at entry-level prices.
17:59:46 <GinnyHuo> Not now, when they are basically just another premium marketplace.
17:59:51 <nstrom|m> yeppp
18:07:33 <pokechu22> I'm running geekhack.org via archivebot (it's large but probably OK) and https://wiki.geekhack.org/ using wikiteam tools
18:07:50 <thuban> GinnyHuo: you can see the progress at http://archivebot.com/3 (job id 8uri0irz9iyri3ku2bjbxyukp)
18:09:56 <GinnyHuo> Thank you very much for your assistance!
18:14:05 <pokechu22> worth noting that it was previously saved 2018: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=geekhack
18:16:03 <andrew> apparently the .ml TLD has transferred control back to Mali effective *today* https://www.ft.com/content/ab62af67-ed2a-42d0-87eb-c762ac163cf0
18:16:27 <andrew> maybe we should archive it so we don't get another .ga situation
18:17:01 <andrew> maybe all of Freenom's other TLDs as well, they seem to be falling apart
18:20:00 <fireonlive> if the NS records have already been updated there's little (if any) time for the 'domains that didn't make it' unfortunately
18:20:37 <fireonlive> non-paywall: https://archive.is/UNHbk
18:21:00 <fireonlive> (though you can still query the old freenom NS for the old domains I believe but i don't think AB supports that/that gets into murky 'tampering' waters)
18:22:14 <andrew> fireonlive: as of right now "free" .ml domains are still online
18:23:01 <andrew> the NS records for the TLD still have not been updated
18:23:06 <fireonlive> ah, great!
18:23:09 <fireonlive> hm
18:54:53 <tzt> JAA, jonty: there are also web crawls https://archive.org/details/discogs-web but those also stopped in March 2021
18:55:44 <JAA> Those are all from early 2021, interesting.
18:55:54 <JAA> The other thing had been going for some time.
18:57:31 <h2ibot> Switchnode edited ArchiveBot (+223, /* Usage Caveats a.k.a Things Not To Do With…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50251&oldid=49900
20:51:14 <vokunal|m> can the bots here handle if i upload a zipped txt file or only zstd?
20:58:09 <fireonlive> i don't think so (for automated submissions like imgone); zstd you're just stripping off the extension from the URL which lets transfer.* know to extract the zstd for you and the bot just reads the raw text
20:58:53 <fireonlive> yep, it doesn't like that
20:59:12 <fireonlive> (and removing .zip doesn't auto extract either)
21:01:00 <JAA> Correct, only zstd.
21:05:22 <vokunal|m> Alright thanks
21:11:39 <JAA> Re motor-talk.de, topics and blog articles can be enumerated like https://www.motor-talk.de/-t7495710.html which redirects to the canonical URL. Tests are on a separate site.
21:11:53 <h2ibot> Switchnode edited Deathwatch (+201, /* 2024 */ add motor-talk.de): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50252&oldid=50225
21:12:53 <h2ibot> Switchnode edited Deathwatch (+0, /* 2024 */ fix chronological sorting): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50253&oldid=50252
21:13:40 <JAA> And yes, too big for AB.
21:14:00 <nicolas17> rewby: did you finish uploading all the backlog of imgur warcs?
21:31:32 <thuban> dpos, since qwarc won't get media?
21:49:29 <JAA> qwarc can get anything its user tells it to.
21:52:24 <thuban> right, but i had the impression it was impractical to set it up for arbitrary page requisites
21:55:11 <JAA> Not *really*, it just requires you to hook it up to an HTML parser etc. since qwarc by design doesn't come with anything like that.
21:55:41 <JAA> Could also grab the text contents first and then extract the media afterwards to retrieve them with AB or another qwarc process.
23:10:24 <JAA> Working on the tracker, web interface might break, but actual tracker operation won't be affected.
23:11:55 <fireonlive> JAA, going head first into ruby. god speed.
23:22:01 <DigitalDragons> good luck!
23:24:22 <FavoritoHJS> here to report it appears like github archives do not save comments correctly, which is a bit of a problem as i'm hearing gh is dissapearing some users
23:29:01 <FavoritoHJS> see: https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/110730217274637867 if nixos rings a bell to you i can direct you to more details
23:38:14 <JAA> Ok, tracker maintenance is done. Just shuffled some bits around, no visible changes.
23:41:12 <datechnoman> Doing gods work :P