01:09:04 <sbsb> is there an archive of filefront's old files
01:53:52 <flashfire42> Ok so we are gonna potentially lose The Trove in a few days can I rethrow it into archivebot if we arent getting a project together? or could we throw it at URLs
02:07:51 <pokechu22> I think we tried with archivebot and it clearly wasn't going to end well, but not 100% sure
02:10:51 <nulldata> https://pxlsfiddle.com/ has a shutdown notice. Looks like the last AB grab was back in 2021.
02:52:42 <vokunal|m> flashfire42: I remember people bouncing around project names for it and idk what happened after that
02:52:58 <vokunal|m> That was like two months ago though
03:46:15 <OrIdow6> I don't see anything in my logs for "The Trove"
03:46:34 <OrIdow6> Recently
03:47:03 <fireonlive> 2023-06-17: 06:13:37 PM <@arkiver>  anyone have a channel name idea for "Trove"? see Deatchwatch
03:47:14 <fireonlive> #TreasureTheTrashedTrove was one idea by flashfire42
03:47:43 <flashfire42|m> We need it cause it’s like 3 days left and it’s GIANT
03:47:58 <fireonlive> also TrovePlundering
03:48:04 <fireonlive> by the same
03:48:21 <fireonlive> but yeah grep -i trove and you'll find some stuff here from 2023-06-17
03:51:14 <DigitalDragons> treasuredrove
03:51:56 <DigitalDragons> (to IA, hopefully :) )
03:53:26 <OrIdow6> Is it shutting down exactly at the end of the month?
03:54:25 <OrIdow6> I'm not familiar with Australian politics but this https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/funding-pledge-saves-national-library-s-trove-from-closure-threat-20230402-p5cxdn.html seems to suggest it has some time left
04:59:49 <thuban> ugh. i found a way to enumerate silph's user pages, but while i initially thought that all data was in the page, in fact _some_ data (including stuff that would be nice to have like contact info) is ajaxed... as jsonp.
05:01:00 <thuban> anyone know how jquery's callback param is generated? if we can guess it correctly, will capturing the api request allow wbm playback to work?
05:08:10 <thuban> ugh, nvm. not only is it stochastic, default jquery behavior for jsonp includes a timestamp param. what a very dumb system
05:46:49 <Fusl> thuban: jsonp is typically just a json-like notation wrapped in a function call, you should be able to just s|^[^(]+\(||;s|\)$||
05:49:59 <thuban> Fusl: i understand that, but pages that use it won't play back in the wayback machine (because we can't capture a matching request)
05:50:11 <Fusl> oh yeah that makes sense
05:52:06 <thuban> if there's time i'll grab the relevant data anyway, which is better than nothing. but, pretty frustrating
08:10:33 <that_lurker> "HISD to eliminate librarians and convert libraries into disciplinary centers at NES schools" - https://abc13.com/hisd-libraries-librarians-media-specialists-houston-isd/13548483/
11:11:42 <JAA> thuban: The WBM *could* do the rewriting itself in theory. The JSONP function name is normally passed in a query param. So it'd have to ignore that param, load the old snapshot, and replace its callback name with the one from the new request.
11:12:01 <JAA> But of course that requires the WBM team to implement it, which has a lead time of around a decade.
11:24:36 <flashfire42|m> Ok I know it’s not taking a super long time to get new items but is it really a wise idea to have the archiveteam choice be reddit when it’s constantly running out of new items
11:24:41 <flashfire42|m> Like it’s generating the new ones but
11:41:32 <imer> Yeah, can probably be switched back to telegram since it chewed through the few million item backlog after it was fixed pretty quick
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19:19:33 <sunny_starscout> Hello all, the World of Warships forum is being shut down.
19:19:35 <sunny_starscout> https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/community/forum-shutdown/
19:19:42 <sunny_starscout> "Starting on July 28, 2023, we will begin the process of closing the regional forums by removing the ability to post. Your posts and the posts of others will remain accessible until October 31st, 2023, at which time the forums will be fully shut down."
19:20:51 <sunny_starscout> Not sure where else to post this
19:22:34 <sunny_starscout> Specifically the forums are at: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/, https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/, https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/
19:27:00 <JAA> sunny_starscout: Hi, thanks, someone else brought it up earlier. The NA forums are already running through ArchiveBot, the other two will follow shortly.
19:27:32 <masterX244> at least the readonly time freezes the state for a good archival
19:27:59 <JAA> Yep, and three months is plenty of time, too.
19:28:00 <sunny_starscout> Awesome
19:28:09 <sunny_starscout> It's a shame they're doing this and pushing everyone to discord
19:28:10 <sunny_starscout> ash well
19:28:24 <JAA> I might do another run with qwarc because why not.
19:28:55 <JAA> Yeah, it's sad that so many people don't seem to understand that Discord isn't a valid replacement for any forum.
19:29:30 <sunny_starscout> I'm looking at the archivebot dashboard and I don't see any pages after the first being fetched
19:29:30 <sunny_starscout> hmm
19:29:51 <JAA> Job 3aain4ccckjt3azps84bp2im0 is running through various topics currently.
19:30:09 <sunny_starscout> yep that's the one I'm looking at
19:30:12 <JAA> Oh, I get what you mean.
19:30:28 <JAA> AB does breadth-first recursion.
19:30:36 <sunny_starscout> ahhhhh ok
19:30:40 <JAA> If threads have multiple pages, those will get queued and retrieved later.