01:24:00 <audrooku|m> Hi, would it be possible to have this site crawled? <https://www.sphere.bc.ca/oldsite/index.html>
01:24:14 <audrooku|m> they are going out of business, their site has lots of photos and datasheets
01:25:54 <fireonlive> " The site will be slimmed down in the coming weeks consisting of primarily the Stuff Page and a main announcement page." :(
01:36:51 <fireonlive> I guess https://www.sphere.bc.ca/ would cover oldsite as well
01:44:19 <JAA> audrooku|m: I've started an ArchiveBot job for the entire domain.
01:50:56 <h2ibot> JustAnotherArchivist edited Template:Datetime (+27, <includeonly>): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50677&oldid=50676
01:51:01 <JAA> fireonlive: Template looks good, thanks!
01:51:15 <JAA> Just added some magic to prevent its default expansion on the template page.
01:51:28 <JAA> Also yes, MediaWiki syntax is special.
01:52:04 <fireonlive> ^_^
01:52:07 <fireonlive> thanks :)
01:52:55 <JAA> Now to edit all existing pages. lol
01:52:56 <h2ibot> Skreutzer edited JoshWho TV (+180): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50678&oldid=50659
01:52:57 <h2ibot> Skreutzer edited Corder (+61): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50679&oldid=50660
01:52:58 <h2ibot> Skreutzer edited Category talk:Video hosting (+2378): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50680&oldid=38490
01:52:59 <fireonlive> haha yes
01:52:59 <h2ibot> Myusernameisanything edited URLTeam (+196, /* Alive */ url.zip): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50681&oldid=50585
01:53:31 <JAA> I've done some of that before to update all the IRC channel references when we moved from EFnet to here. A lot of fun...
01:53:41 <fireonlive> ah right! >_<
01:54:15 <JAA> At least that was somewhat automatable. Dates are hell.
01:54:32 <fireonlive> indeed. i imagine a slow burn approach is better
01:54:42 <fireonlive> use going forward, high traffic pages/as we see them
01:54:54 <JAA> Actually, it was when I changed the Template:IRC to default to hackint when everything needed updating, not on migration itself.
01:55:20 <fireonlive> ohh
01:56:52 <fireonlive> https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/8c0cf30d97de2779/image.png
01:56:55 <fireonlive> looks like a party!
02:02:50 <JAA> :-)
02:04:09 <JAA> Most of it was done with some fun scripts.
02:05:18 <JAA> A bit of tmux magic to cycle through pages and edit them with nano since patterns weren't reliable enough.
02:05:23 <JAA> And then a script to submit all the edits.
02:06:51 <DigitalDragons> Are all the archivebot/ pages on the wiki still used?
02:07:19 <fireonlive> nice ^_^
02:09:03 <JAA> DigitalDragons: No, the bot behind that has been dead for years by now. I have a partial replacement (will be a separate website but be able to process lists from wiki pages), but it got stalled and I haven't worked on it in some time now.
02:10:27 <JAA> Editing the .../list pages is fine though; those will eventually be used for that (with changes in formatting). The non-/list pages will just be discarded at that time.
02:11:21 <fireonlive> there is a bunch of cruft other places as well but that tends to happen
02:12:05 <fireonlive> or stuff that didnt pan out/probably isnt in scope
02:13:07 <fireonlive> sometimes i have fun clicking on https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Random
02:13:09 <fireonlive> :3
02:13:17 <JAA> :-)
02:14:16 <DigitalDragons> that's how I do my editing
02:14:28 <DigitalDragons> just spamming random until I find a problem
02:14:39 <JAA> lol
02:15:35 <fireonlive> :P
02:16:56 <JAA> You can do some fun maths to calculate how many times you need to hit Special:Random until you've seen every page on the wiki.
02:20:26 <fireonlive> https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Eroshare < "formerly #nofap (on EFnet)" hahahaha
02:21:17 <DigitalDragons> Who needs to do the math when someone did all the hard work for us? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Collecting_items_randomly
02:22:18 <JAA> > Don't ask me to prove this mathematically.
02:22:20 <JAA> Pfff
02:22:41 <fireonlive> DigitalDragons: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/19th_century
02:24:18 <fireonlive> lol @ don't ask
02:28:37 <fireonlive> here's a fun one too: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:WantedPages
02:28:56 <fireonlive> 665 dead/red links to ArXiv‏‎ and IBM for example
02:30:03 <JAA> Almost all of those come from the navbox template.
02:30:10 <JAA> I never liked that one very much.
02:30:43 <fireonlive> ah yes just saw that
02:31:07 <fireonlive> yeah, not a huge fan of the navbox
02:32:57 <fireonlive> is 'Emijrp' still around?
02:35:23 <fireonlive> seems last contribution was in 2017 to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Me_at_the_zoo
02:35:59 <JAA> No, hasn't been around in a couple years now. They ran the ArchiveBot/* bot.
02:37:11 <fireonlive> ahh
02:37:25 <fireonlive> oops
02:37:32 <fireonlive> 👀
02:38:05 <h2ibot> FireonLive edited Template:Navigation box (-17078, not maintained, lots of 'red links', hard to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50682&oldid=50099
02:38:21 <fireonlive> your honour that was a misclick if anyone asks
02:39:26 <JAA> I'd like to see us use categories more.
02:39:55 <fireonlive> indeed
02:40:17 <fireonlive> projects could be a link to various categories .... or can we include stuff inside categories somehow idk
02:40:21 <JAA> I guess the navbox was 'fine' in the early days, but now it's just an opinionated mess because it'd get way too large if everything was included there.
02:40:22 <fireonlive> it's currently very very unmaintained
02:40:46 <fireonlive> inside categories on the page itself (or pull from the infoboxes we use)
02:40:56 <JAA> So there's some editorial choice of which targets 'deserve' to be in the navbox.
02:41:09 <fireonlive> ah yes
02:41:39 <fireonlive> last thing we need is more room for infighting lol
02:41:44 <JAA> For categories, we just put [[Category:X]] at the bottom of a wiki page, and it gets added to that category.
02:41:52 <fireonlive> 'why X over Y!'
02:42:21 <JAA> Creating an actual category page isn't strictly necessary, but adding a little description there isn't necessarily a bad idea.
02:42:24 <fireonlive> ah yes like the Deleteme category :3
02:43:10 <fireonlive> oh it's a template as well; https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Template:Delete
02:43:25 <fireonlive> but yeah agreed there
02:44:19 <fireonlive> when someone .. updates the mediawiki .. wouldn't mind /index.php/ being replaced while they're there :p
02:45:52 <JAA> Does a category for user-generated content make sense? Most archival targets with a wiki page have UGC anyway.
02:46:24 <JAA> Not sure we can get rid of it, but replacing it with /wiki/ or something would be good, yeah.
02:47:03 <fireonlive> ye /wiki/ would work
02:47:29 <fireonlive> on UGC i think that's most of our sites
02:47:56 <fireonlive> if we really wanted to track that we could track the inverse
02:48:07 <h2ibot> JustAnotherArchivist edited Gfycat (+27, Categorise): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50683&oldid=50668
02:48:11 <fireonlive> but even something like $newsWebsite has comment sections i suppos
02:48:14 <fireonlive> suppose*
02:48:21 <fireonlive> increasingly less common, but yeah
02:49:38 <fireonlive> https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Categories and https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:WantedCategories seem to list the categories for those following along
02:49:59 <fireonlive> not sure oh ok
02:50:05 <fireonlive> oops
02:50:36 <fireonlive> the latter is just a subset of Categories - those w/o a 'page' (any text on them explaining the category)
02:50:40 <fireonlive> TIL :3
02:51:05 <JAA> Yep
02:51:31 <JAA> The categories exist, the category pages list the pages in that category, just the explainer is missing and the category link is red.
02:51:34 <fireonlive> i've installed MediaWiki once or twice way back when but didn't get too involved
02:51:55 <fireonlive> ah
02:52:45 <fireonlive> i think this was a sorta ArchiveBot/ one: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deaths_by_year
02:53:04 <fireonlive> https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Lulz < ah yes
02:54:22 <fireonlive> i wouldn't necessarily advise visiting that particular sub-board or whatever the proper term is lol
02:55:08 <JAA> Yeah, deaths/disestablishments was generated from Wiki(Something) by a bot. Don't remember whether it was Wikipedia or Wikidata.
02:55:21 <JAA> Also by emijrp, also no longer operational.
02:57:38 <audrooku|m> JAA: thank you very much
02:57:48 <audrooku|m> (re: adding sphere to AB)
02:58:07 <fireonlive> ah ye
02:58:57 <fireonlive> an 'Obsolete' namespace was proposed to move/make things read-only, but idk if some things should just be pruned or what
03:13:11 <h2ibot> FireonLive edited 2018-10-13 (+25, categorize): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50684&oldid=31435
03:45:17 <h2ibot> FireonLive edited Current Projects (+161, datetime-ify): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50685&oldid=50670
04:28:54 <fireonlive> that_lurker: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/File:Jasonappeal.png
04:41:29 <h2ibot> FireonLive edited In The Media (+1124, datetime-ify; remove navigation box template): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50686&oldid=50297
04:46:45 <fireonlive> https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=6353395 < interesting :3
04:48:17 <fireonlive> (https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities)
04:49:24 <thuban> iirc there was some question of whether the geocities torrent is actually functional--someone came in here a while back having extended trouble with it
04:50:02 <fireonlive> ahh
04:50:08 <fireonlive> apparently there's a patched and non-patched version
04:50:52 <fireonlive> https://web.archive.org/web/20110924161549/http://www.archiveteam.org/archives/geocitiespatch/README.txt
04:51:16 <thuban> it was the patched one that was problematic
04:51:19 <fireonlive> ahh ok
04:52:01 <fireonlive> wonder if that collection has it all..it appears to be similar in size: 657.4GB
04:52:55 <thuban> https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-ot/20220307 i'm not sure whether there was actually a problem or this guy was just really confused
04:54:01 <fireonlive> "$ tar xf > /h..." hm yeah
04:54:55 <fireonlive> looks like i missed that by over two months lucky me :D
04:55:58 <thuban> oh, i guess everything was fine and someone helped him work it out eventually
04:56:01 <fireonlive> huh yeah
04:58:03 <fireonlive> https://www.youtube.com/@nirv/videos via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0fCNo_4Qc looks like he kept on learning at least
05:00:32 <h2ibot> JAABot edited Main Page/In The Media (+130): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50687&oldid=50299
05:55:09 <flashfire42> Ok I queued all the telegram channels from the wiki is it time to do youtube videos?
06:11:57 <fireonlive> if they fall within scope ™
06:47:21 <erkinalp> any update on IA uploads?
06:47:30 <erkinalp> still the same bottleneck?
07:01:57 <h2ibot> Yts98 edited PIXNET (+561, Update site structure): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50688&oldid=50628
07:14:00 <h2ibot> Yts98 edited PIXNET (-6): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50689&oldid=50688
07:33:56 <Carnildo> I was there watching as MediaWiki syntax was created.  It wasn't so much "designed" as "evolved".
07:34:33 <Carnildo> A fair chunk of it comes from the developers going "Oh crap, the users have figured out how to use template inclusion to build a programming language, and it's killing the servers."
08:14:02 <pabs> https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/31/malwarebytes-layoffs-business-split/
08:33:19 <vokunal|m> Malwarebytes is both nice to have, and terrible to have. For a solid few years, I actually downloaded it, installed it, scanned what I was going to scan, and then un-installed it, every time I downloaded something remotely sketchy. All due to its persistent pop up ads for buying it. It's quieted down now, and I'm not sure why, but I haven't seen a notification from it in a long time
10:01:56 <ShakespeareFan00> Hi.
10:02:04 <imer> Hi!
10:02:09 <ShakespeareFan00> Are there any people here that speak Russian ?
10:02:54 <imer> Might have to stick around for a while for that one, I wouldn't know anyone off the top of my head, but that means nothing :)
10:03:21 <imer> Might help to add why you're asking though
10:03:22 <ShakespeareFan00> It was noted on the Wikimedia Discord that Russia had  recently announced it was going to start blocking more types of site including those with LGBT related content.
10:04:23 <ShakespeareFan00> I don't speak, read or write Russian, but figured that someone that did may wish to archive Russian language LGBT information before it gets taken down by the regime ?
10:05:55 <ShakespeareFan00> As I don't read, write or speak Russian myself, it would need an archivist with the requisite language skills.
10:06:33 <ShakespeareFan00> Anyway that was why I asking :)
10:06:48 * ShakespeareFan00 out
14:38:34 <h2ibot> Exorcism uploaded File:Cliptube-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ACliptube-screenshot.png
14:39:34 <h2ibot> Exorcism created ClipTube (+305, Created page with "{{Infobox project | image =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=ClipTube
16:19:29 <fireonlive> Carnildo: ahhh that makes sense… and lmao xD
17:21:48 <Barto> so nitter.net and nitter.cz seem to cause some problems archiving some accounts. Any other instance that we can use? I wanna do 36 accounts :-|
17:37:06 <bladem> generate a bunch of guest tokens and spin up your own instance probably; I think nitter.net is IP banning people for scraping now
17:42:00 <Barto> eh
17:42:53 <Barto> that would be the dream instance for AB, but as a quickfix this will not do it, thanks anyway :)
19:18:27 <h2ibot> JustAnotherArchivist edited We-TeVe (+581, Infobox, archival, datetimeify): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50692&oldid=50652
19:39:31 <h2ibot> JacksonChen666 edited URLTeam/Dead (+605, add u.fail and related domains as dead (moved…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50693&oldid=49996
19:39:32 <h2ibot> JacksonChen666 edited URLTeam (-991, delete u.fail from alive (moved to dead subpage)): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50694&oldid=50681
20:00:35 <h2ibot> JAABot edited URLTeam/Dead (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50695&oldid=50693
20:22:39 <h2ibot> TheTechRobo edited RootsWeb (-35, /* Mailing Lists */  Use [[Template:Job]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50696&oldid=49474
23:47:16 <guest_5981> Update for Kongregate - they're removing their forums on September 6, making content inaccessible. Hopefully they're archived.
23:56:30 <JAA> guest_5981: Huh, is there an announcement about this somewhere?
23:57:46 <guest_5981> It shows when I opened a random game.