17:19:38 <Lord_Nightmare> https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FH4YHM8EIVEJ:https://www.moddb.com/mods/gta-liberty-city/downloads/beta-30+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d
17:19:58 <Lord_Nightmare> google cache still has the download cdn links like https://www.moddb.com/downloads/start/179726
17:20:07 <Lord_Nightmare> and the moddb cdn still serves the files
17:27:48 <Lord_Nightmare> would it make sense to sequentially ask moddb for all files?
17:28:15 <Lord_Nightmare> https://github.com/citizenfx/fivem is in imminent danger of dmca takedown, see https://twitter.com/ElFodder/status/1417171286992826368
17:29:31 <Lord_Nightmare> apparently take-two interactive/2k games is interested in shooting the gta community in the head, all modders and particularly the rp community that depends on fivem, because they're complete nincompoops
17:29:55 <Lord_Nightmare> don't they realize that more than half the streaming of gta on twitch is gta5 RP? they're completely insane
17:32:02 <Lord_Nightmare> ... the response tweet to https://twitter.com/ElFodder/status/1417171286992826368 seems to imply fivem had a credential compromise and is now back up?
17:32:40 <Lord_Nightmare> but that doesn't change the fact that take2 is taking down tons of mods
17:35:27 <Lord_Nightmare> this latest wave of legal notices from taketwo is very very disturbing
17:54:41 <asie> take-two has a history of this kind of behaviour
17:55:47 <asie> but also, tons of projects get fraudulent DMCAs
17:56:03 <asie> i had to deal with a fraudulent DMCA on a minecraft modding project once; thankfully mojang had our back
17:56:22 <asie> well, okay, they didn't exactly "have our back" as much as "they were impersonated in a legal document"
17:56:24 <asie> but yeah
20:22:13 <JAA> Lord_Nightmare: I'm grabbing all the https://github.com/citizenfx repos now. (Just the actual repo, no issues etc.)
20:39:24 <JAA> ... I might regret that. https://github.com/citizenfx/chromium
20:41:46 <hexa-> rip
20:43:54 <JAA> Now git is indexing the pack even though it will just get thrown into a bundle anyway. :-|
20:45:27 * Doranwen is wishing she *did* know Python now, as she's trying to figure out how to use pyautogui, lol
20:47:11 <Doranwen> like, I think I understand the comands I need - with one exception - but I have no idea how to set it up *sighs at self*
20:47:20 <Doranwen> really should've looked into this stuff earlier in my life
20:48:44 * JAA switches to his cliché advice voice: The best time to learn that was 20 years ago. The second-best time is now.
20:48:47 <JAA> :-)
20:49:14 <Doranwen> lol yes
20:49:27 <Frogging101> wouldn't the second best time actually have been 19.9 years ago
20:49:36 <Doranwen> LOL
20:49:46 <JAA> Heh
20:50:45 <Doranwen> I've tried searches to figure things out but I'm getting nowhere - the learning curve is a wee bit steep, and there's only so far I can make myself go on a random course (without a proper teacher and assignments) before I have to see the direct relevance to the puzzle I'm trying to solve
20:51:41 * Doranwen is not quite desperate enough to sign up for a real course with a teacher and assignments
20:52:11 <spirit> buy the book https://automatetheboringstuff.com/
20:52:18 <Doranwen> I've asked a friend on Discord who knows some Python, so we'll see what she suggests
20:52:22 <spirit> it's great for self learning if you are interested
20:52:29 <spirit> motivating style and projects
20:54:47 <Doranwen> I'm not very good at "let's learn this thing" and just working on whatever the course says
20:54:59 <Doranwen> I tend to be very much "I need to solve this problem" "let me learn about the thing I need to solve this problem"
20:55:12 <Doranwen> and slowly building my picture of things from there
20:55:18 <Doranwen> of course, that only works with some things, lol
20:55:23 <spirit> at some point you need to realise that you will need to learn some fundamental basics
20:55:39 <spirit> or you will just write shit code and waste your time on things that dont work
20:55:46 <Doranwen> right, but I don't tend to remember those basics until I can tie them to something in my head
20:55:49 <Doranwen> that's the problem
20:55:57 <spirit> treat it like a novel
20:56:03 <spirit> physical copy
20:56:10 <spirit> read it when pooping
20:56:14 <Doranwen> LOL
20:57:26 <arkiver> Doranwen: if you have an idea for what to work on, just start working on it
20:57:32 <arkiver> search around a lot
20:57:44 <Doranwen> yeah, I'm in the "my searching isn't turning up anything I can understand" stage
20:59:01 <arkiver> what are you searching for?
20:59:05 <Doranwen> I will keep trying, but I feel like I'm missing the piece in between to make sense of it
20:59:30 <Doranwen> two things, but one I don't think I can really search for - their examples all have >>> in front of them, and I'm not sure why that is
20:59:41 <Doranwen> the other thing is how to set up a repeat for a specific number of times
20:59:52 <arkiver> >>> is usually example code
20:59:56 <Doranwen> ahhhh, ok
21:00:07 <arkiver> a 'repeat' is a loop
21:00:13 <arkiver> so loop for n times
21:00:29 <arkiver> i'd search "python loop n times" or similar
21:00:31 <arkiver> should show sometimes
21:00:32 <Doranwen> I thought it was, I just wasn't understanding the results I got
21:00:38 <Doranwen> ok, will give that a try, thanks
21:00:39 <arkiver> in this case it is
21:00:47 <arkiver> for i in range(n):
21:00:49 <arkiver>     do something
21:01:00 <thuban> (">>>" is the prompt in the python repl)
21:01:04 <thuban> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read%E2%80%93eval%E2%80%93print_loop)
21:01:27 <arkiver> 'python repl' maybe outside what Doranwen knows at the moment though
21:01:36 <Doranwen> lol yes, it is outside that
21:02:01 <Doranwen> the actual keystroke commands, the pyautogui manual was quite clear about, actually
21:02:10 <Doranwen> and I'm pretty sure I've got the right sequence set up for what I need
21:02:17 <arkiver> if you are just getting started with python
21:02:26 <arkiver> i'd not try to use anything like pyautogui
21:02:43 <Doranwen> :(
21:02:48 <arkiver> just do command line, when you're really comfortable with that, you can start using that "autothis" "autothat" stuff
21:02:51 <Doranwen> that's the reason I *want* to do it
21:02:55 <arkiver> make sure you know the background first
21:03:28 <arkiver> well in that you're not really trying to learn python, but more just how to create a GUI, and python is necessary evil for that
21:03:36 <arkiver> (not only python, but yeah)
21:04:27 <Doranwen> as far as I can tell pyautogui doesn't actually create a gui of any kind
21:04:41 <Doranwen> it's basically setting up macros with the option to do visual stuff
21:04:43 <arkiver> ah
21:04:49 <Doranwen> what I need it for are only keystrokes, though
21:04:51 <arkiver> yeah i was basing what i said on the name
21:05:05 <Doranwen> very simple, doesn't even need to do any x or y coordinates
21:05:09 <arkiver> well yeah seems to have clear examples
21:06:59 <Doranwen> yeah, they were clear enough that I feel like I really do know how to set up all the commands I need, except for getting it to loop around the right number of times
21:07:15 <Doranwen> which is where I'm reading a search result :)
21:07:37 <thuban> ('pyautogui' would have been an appropriate name for https://github.com/chriskiehl/Gooey)
21:08:51 <arkiver> Doranwen: good :)
21:11:56 <OrIdow6>  Doranwen: Are these separate from regular loops? Or you just want to know how to do loops in Python?
21:13:06 <Doranwen> well, I'm reading about how to do loops?
21:13:12 <Doranwen> because that'll teach me how to do this?
21:13:17 <Doranwen> and I'll remember it because I have this purpose for it
21:13:56 * Doranwen is mostly understanding what she's read, but is going to look at a few more pages in hopes they'll clear up the confusing parts she doesn't understand
21:18:13 <spirit> https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/controlflow.html#for-statements
21:20:56 <Doranwen> thanks
21:36:16 * Doranwen found some helpful pages and is beginning to understand and solve each puzzle she's coming across
21:37:50 <HCross> Does that mean we can call you “Dora The Explorer” :P
21:45:11 * Doranwen winces
21:45:38 <Doranwen> I might not have chosen my nick if I'd known that would come along
21:46:03 * Doranwen is *Doran*, not Dora, but soooooo many people have missed the N over the years
21:46:10 <Doranwen> oh well, lol
21:58:42 <Doranwen> nothing like a good puzzle to solve to motivate me to learn something, lol
22:10:37 <Doranwen> at this point I've got it working except that the pause function doesn't work some of the time :P
22:10:46 <Doranwen> and I'm not quite sure why
22:13:06 <Doranwen> it doesn't like it when it's called *before* stuff, so I just added in a tiny move of the mouse and told it to take some time doing so, lol
22:13:09 <Doranwen> and that fixed it
22:15:47 <JAA> Wow, the git pack indexing finally finished just now.
22:15:51 <JAA> 1.5 hours... lol
22:20:23 <JAA> And now it's running `git pack-objects` even though everything is already in a single pack... *facepalm*
22:23:09 <Doranwen> lol
22:23:23 <Doranwen> thank you all for your help - I have got my script working and doing what I want it to do and it is beautiful
22:23:28 * Doranwen also learned quite a few functions along the way