18:49:14 <Maddie> I want to archive a controversial youtubers entire channel but some of there videos dont show up in there channel, but are not deleted. Some kind of shadow video ban?
18:49:24 <Frogging101> Unlisted?
18:50:08 <Frogging101> A video uploader can set videos as unlisted, meaning they're not deleted but they can only be accessed with a link, or if it's in a playlist
18:50:34 <Maddie> No, thay arwnt unlisted, i can find some of them by searching
18:52:37 <Maddie> Frogging101: heres an example of a video I found by searching but doesn't show up on there channel page https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCCHR8PK5g4
18:54:50 <Maddie> I don't really have an google account but thought about makeing one to get accsess to the youtube api, I think it might help?
18:59:10 <JAA> Maddie: YouTube recently (early December?) split up the video list into separate tabs. That video is listed on https://www.youtube.com/@LarsAndersenFrihed/streams because it was a live stream.
19:35:18 <Maddie> :O?
19:37:08 <Maddie> Sorry for late response but :O... But I'm still pretty sure I've seen another video that I can't find anyware, that wasn't a live stream; Do you know if youtube-dl checks the live streams tab or if I have to do something extra to make sure those too get downloaded?
19:38:38 <JAA> I haven't seen any videos that appear on none of the three tabs, so if you have an example, I'd like to know.
19:38:53 <JAA> No idea about youtube-dl, but yt-dlp supports it if you give it the channel URL (*not* a tab URL).
19:40:15 <Maddie> Perhaps I'll switch to dlp; what do you mean by three tabs? Only know about 2 now.
19:40:25 <JAA> Videos, streams, and live
19:40:31 <Maddie> Oh.
19:40:35 <JAA> Er, shorts, not streams.
19:43:14 <Maddie> Is there ANY reason to use youtube-dl instead of yt-dlp? Could I just switch all my scripts over to it? Also thank you so much for the page you sent, now I have more of the videos.
19:53:10 <hexa-> the former is utterly unmaintained
20:31:12 <Maddie> Wow, yt-dlp feels much faster.
22:22:14 <thuban> hexa-: youtube-dl is now under new management and being maintained again, with the raison d'etre of targeting old-ass python versions (and not making any breaking interface changes)
22:22:55 <thuban> but yeah, in general people are working on & should be using yt-dlp
22:23:24 <hexa-> yikes
22:23:48 <hexa-> yt-dlp gained attraction when it fixed a bug that made downloads from youtube fast again
22:26:55 <thuban> "For people concerned that Python 2 is a couple of years beyond EOL, one case that I support could survive until 2038, or the end of DVB-T2 broadcasting if that comes sooner. That's the timescale of deployed embedded applications" :)
22:27:11 <hexa-> silly
22:28:41 <thuban> quixotic, but i figure it's not hurting anybody
22:31:36 <hexa-> people who assume using python2 is safe maybe?
22:32:24 <thuban> that failure is upstream