00:10:13 <nukke> Anyone try this? https://halloy.squidowl.org/
00:19:54 <fireonlive> nukke: do you update right away on tuesday or do you let others be microsoft's guinea piggies
00:22:28 <nukke> Nah we wait a day usually. Haven't had many issues lately but we also don't have that many windows servers at work (<150)
00:22:58 <nukke> At home I only have 1 windows machine and I update whenever I boot it up
01:05:47 <fireonlive> ah :)
01:08:40 <nukke> https://www.newsweek.com/homeowner-baffled-washing-machine-uses-3-6gb-internet-1862675
01:54:47 <nulldata> Ah so that must be how they launder Bitcoin!
02:29:25 <fireonlive> https://old.reddit.com/r/starbucks/comments/1bva2qs/shrinkflation_boycotting_businesses/
02:29:44 <fireonlive> "we couldn't possibly give you full pumps" ~ billion dollar company
03:30:47 <nukke> https://www.404media.co/xz-backdoor-bullying-in-open-source-software-is-a-massive-security-vulnerability/
03:31:20 <nukke> >“Three years ago, F-Droid had a similar kind of 'bullying' attempt as the Xz backdoor,” a longtime developer of F-Droid reports
03:44:09 <JAA> :-|
05:36:35 <fireonlive> so 45drives came out with this
05:36:37 <fireonlive> https://45homelab.com/
05:36:47 <fireonlive> "Premium Storage Servers for the HomeLab"
05:36:51 <fireonlive> wonder if any good
06:05:26 <nukke> Fuck yeah graphene https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-fixes-two-pixel-zero-day-flaws-exploited-by-forensics-firms/
06:05:44 <nukke> https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/112204441311327128
08:05:28 <imer> fireonlive: looks pricey compared to the usual used hardware people go for
08:06:30 <imer> used hardware, or rather old cpus, suck though, soo slow :D
10:14:01 <catia> fireonlive: seems it’s just the chassis even, bring your own mobo?
13:02:46 <nukke> https://github.com/ifupdown-ng/ifupdown-ng/issues/234
14:25:31 <imer> ^ that is a good thing tbh, pressuring people into doing stuff is lame
14:37:00 <nukke> >@Neustradamus it is suspicious that you're nagging maintainers of several projects trying really hard to say that there's a problem with them while also being the person to request the compromised xz version to be put in vcpkg.
14:37:12 <nukke> this is the scary part
14:49:36 <imer> oh. missed that tidbit
15:13:40 <joepie91|m> oh hey, Neustradamus
15:14:08 <joepie91|m> they were brought up in the xz debacle, something about Jia Tan following them on github, and them having a long tail of issues asking to change some crypto stuff in mail protocols?
15:15:02 <joepie91|m> they posted this kind of issue in a lot of repos: https://github.com/ongres/scram/issues/23
15:21:26 <katia> and they are still around eh
15:47:48 <that_lurker> fireonlive: Looks cool, but last time I checked no shipping from EU, so import taxes will be a bitch
16:02:01 <katia> that_lurker, have you seen the kickstarter for ugreen NAS? those ship to (maybe from?) germany
16:07:52 <that_lurker> katia, Yeah i have looked at those. I will most likely just build a simple unraid nas at somepoint myself.
16:08:09 <nukke> I don't think any techtubers recommended the 45homelab chassis, even though a bunch got one for free or were sponsored
16:08:16 <that_lurker> But yeah those look nice and are well priced atm https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/urgreen/ugreen-nasync-next-level-storage-limitless-possibilities
16:08:30 <katia> yeah very good price
16:08:38 <nukke> the value proposition is just not there. I think the prebuilt with a skylake xeon and **16GB** of RAM is like $2k usd
16:08:41 <katia> building a comparable system myself would cost more
16:12:19 <that_lurker> nukke, yeah and for me to get one I would need to pay somewhere around 300 - 400 € toll
16:14:19 <that_lurker> s/toll/VAT
16:15:00 <nukke> the rosewill rsv-l4500 can fit 12 drives iirc and it's usually like $150usd shipped in the us
16:15:24 <nukke> (no backplane tho)
18:14:19 <nukke> irccloud now supports reactions to messages
18:32:10 <arkiver> nukke: reactions? what does that mean in the case of IRC?
18:32:36 <nukke> https://blog.irccloud.com/static/reply-threads/threads.png
18:33:21 <nukke> inline reaction emojis
18:34:02 <nukke> oh I guess the spec is "message tags" https://blog.irccloud.com/reply-threads/
18:34:09 <nukke> https://ircv3.net/specs/client-tags/react.html
18:36:35 <arkiver> well not supported on efnet i think?
19:07:58 <nicolas17> nukke: "message tags" are machine-readable tags attached to individual messages, not displayed as part of the message content
19:08:24 <nicolas17> reacts are a specific type of message tags
19:08:59 <fireonlive> arkiver: efnet? :p
19:09:23 <arkiver> err hackint
19:12:28 <fireonlive> looks like nuke supports "account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join multi-prefix sasl tls userhost-in-names"
19:12:41 <fireonlive> so not yet sadly
19:23:10 <nicolas17> oh also, I think the server only has to support message tags
19:23:52 <nicolas17> then reactions are the client's problem, the server can just forward the tag without knowing what it means
19:27:58 <fireonlive> ah
20:49:28 <nicolas17> pabs: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-devel/2024-April/002593.html
21:37:13 <fireonlive> ah kde too
21:37:14 <fireonlive> hm
21:42:53 <fireonlive> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-devel/2024-April/002595.html
21:42:53 <fireonlive> >I'm for sure nobody of importance here, but when you demand stopping releasing tarballs because some compression tool has been compromised you could as well demand to shut down all SSL servers because of the heartbleed bug or whatever.
21:43:03 <fireonlive> interesting take, i guess..
21:44:24 * Barto facepalms
21:55:56 <JAA> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/992/397/9c9.gif
22:11:10 <fireonlive> yeeeep
22:16:33 <fireonlive> +rss- Apple explores home robotics as potential 'next big thing': https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-03/apple-explores-home-robots-after-abandoning-car-efforts https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39935597
22:16:36 <fireonlive> i'm just picturing like
22:16:40 <fireonlive> a siri-like home robot
22:16:55 <fireonlive> and it's just going to fucking wreck the place
22:20:00 <katia> nice
22:20:10 <fireonlive> using siri day to day is like
22:20:16 <fireonlive> the ultimate anger management test
22:23:18 <fireonlive> https://dl.fireon.live/irc/ed48b2482672bbe8/power-cables-FAQ.png
22:23:21 <fireonlive> oh, thank you.
22:31:40 <immibis> That was a misunderstanding. It was about stopping releasing source tarballs because source tarballs can be exploited to hide code, not because the tool used to compress them can have a backdoor.
22:58:14 <c3manu> is there a summary or writeup about that xz thing that you recommend or think is worth reading? i've managed to avoid having to do that so far
22:58:38 <JAA> How technical do you want it to be?
23:00:22 <c3manu> i think fairly technical would be alright
23:01:21 <c3manu> but i don't want to have to read gcc code for specific optimisation flags or sth like that ^^
23:02:00 <JAA> https://gist.github.com/thesamesam/223949d5a074ebc3dce9ee78baad9e27 is a decent starting point then and links to other things, too.
23:03:19 <c3manu> and has some possibly helpful comments as well. looks good to me, thank you :)
23:04:59 <c3manu> something to read on my train ride tomorrow
23:07:45 <JAA> Internet connection on a train in Germany‽
23:11:18 <c3manu> why do you think i’m asking the night before? :)
23:13:48 <JAA> Ah yes :-)
23:17:30 <c3manu> sometimes it actually does work okay though. but mostly in long-distance trains
23:50:23 * JAA hasn't been so lucky yet.
23:55:55 <that_lurker> -+rss- Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230388589A1/en https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39936016
23:57:07 <that_lurker> "Disclosed herein are system, apparatus, article of manufacture, method and/or computer program product embodiments, and/or combinations and sub-combinations thereof, for ad insertion by a display device coupled to a media device via a high-definition media interface (HDMI) connection, where the media device provides media content and/or a control
23:57:07 <that_lurker> signal. When the media device pauses the media content, the display device can determine that a pause event has occurred and insert an ad shown on the display device. Further, some embodiments include determining the context and/or content of the media content that is paused, and determining an ad that is customized to the determined context and/or
23:57:07 <that_lurker> content to be displayed on the display device. In some embodiments, the display device can determine additional information from the control signal that may also be used to determine the ad to be displayed on the display device."
23:59:43 <JAA> How novel.