00:18:04 <Doranwen> thuban: just have to check - does the live OS I use to install grub have to be the same as the OS one?  I'm also seeing stuff about booting in EFI mode to install grub so I don't get a legacy version and I'm not sure how to make that work, am afraid I'm going to botch something because I'm not sure of what I'm doing
00:19:49 <Doranwen> I did see all the instructions about doing it from the correct system and all that
00:21:23 <kiska> Oh... https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/0a4dee95e15b796e/image.png
00:21:44 <thuban> Doranwen: in theory, no (especially if you follow the chroot instructions). in practice, maybe. sometimes you just have to try stuff and see if it works
00:21:47 <thuban> you already have a backup, and you can always repartition your drive if you have a problem, so there's no real risk here
00:22:09 * Doranwen nods
00:22:54 <deadorbit> good evening everyone
00:23:58 <Notrealname1234> Hey there
00:26:05 <deadorbit> getting here has been a wild ride
00:26:18 <deadorbit> but i think it started with a hacker news article about Anna's Archive
00:30:07 <fireonlive> oh!
00:30:14 <fireonlive> welcome :)
00:30:34 <fireonlive> to the world of yesterday....
00:31:15 <Notrealname1234> Tomorrow
00:31:28 <deadorbit> something like Hacker News > Anna's Archive > ipdl.cat > freeread.org > mhut.com > /r/DataHoarders Discord > here
00:42:58 <Doranwen> thuban: I'm assuming that just updating grub isn't sufficient, that I need to actually install it - since this comp had legacy grub on there before, is there something I need to do to make sure it installs the EFI version of grub or will grub-install automatically do the EFI version?  The answer's old enough that it's unclear and I'm seeing msgs both ways...
00:55:58 <Doranwen> yeahhhh, it just says "This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!" and fails to install, bah
00:56:13 <Doranwen> It's not doing it as efi for sure
00:57:36 <thuban> Doranwen: yes, you will need to do grub-install before update-grub. using the appropriate `--target` (probably x86_64-efi) can't hurt. whether your `grub-install` supports efi targets may depend on the version and/or your distro's packaging; you may need to install a separate efi package
00:59:44 <Doranwen> That's what I got when I tried grub-install
01:00:11 <Doranwen> I'm doing it from a live disc for Mint 21.2
01:03:09 <Doranwen> Aha, reinstalling grub-efi may have fixed it
01:03:14 <Doranwen> It only had grub-pc installed
01:03:41 <Doranwen> Yay, no error reported
01:05:11 <Doranwen> However, one of the checks it had was to run `blkid | grep -i efi` and compare with ` grep -i efi /etc/fstab` - but when I run the first command, it doesn't find the efi partition at all
01:05:38 <Doranwen> Iirc, it didn't have the mountpoint of /boot/efi, I may have missed something when I was setting it up
01:35:32 <steering> tfw CRO's repsonse to "we should purge unengaged recipients" is "omg no we can't possibly do that panic and accuse him of unprofessionalism because i suck at my job"
01:35:46 <steering> (re the spam thing yesterday)
01:49:12 <fireonlive> did they operate a scam call centre in their past life offering "windows security refunds"?
01:49:15 <fireonlive> 🤔
02:37:15 <fireonlive> >Oh My Git: An open source game about learning Git
02:37:15 <fireonlive> https://ohmygit.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39976634
02:41:33 <myself> ohhhhh I need that
02:46:16 <nukke> I thought games were supposed to be fun, not stressful
02:52:11 <fireonlive> x3
03:05:40 <nulldata> Another update on one of the SBNation podcasts - https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-8pi3g-1e269490
03:06:00 <nulldata> oops meant for -bs
03:50:14 <nicolas17> realizing I'm an AWS spot instance
03:51:02 <fireonlive> oh?
03:51:34 <nicolas17> can be useful
03:51:37 <nicolas17> can have great performance
03:51:50 <nicolas17> but don't use it as the load-bearing part of anything important, you can't rely on its availability
03:51:56 <nicolas17> it can be interrupted or shut down at any time
03:52:30 <fireonlive> uwu
03:52:34 * fireonlive pats nicolas17 
03:55:25 <nicolas17> if you use it for extra processing capacity, it can be very helpful, if you make it Responsible for the Project, you're gonna have a bad time when it unexpectedly fails
04:19:11 <fireonlive> https://dl.fireon.live/irc/57ff0f2149ac6e2a/navy.png
04:19:28 <fireonlive> https://dl.fireon.live/irc/8aca18635abfa8bf/navy2.png
04:19:36 <fireonlive> notice anything lol
04:20:37 <angenieux> "I eat ass (heart)"?
04:20:45 <fireonlive> indeed!
04:20:58 <fireonlive> I guess the official social media didn't really care lol
04:21:28 <angenieux> amazing
04:22:20 <fireonlive> one of the images is here, https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2003407025/
04:22:38 <fireonlive> should see if can find the others in case they yoink
04:23:42 <fireonlive> https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/?igsearch=James%20Burrous
04:23:48 <fireonlive> hm only 1 result
04:26:47 <nukke> isn't the navy infamous for having a ton of gay dudes (atl east when compared to the other branches of the military)?
04:27:47 <angenieux> that is the stereotype, but I wonder if that is accurate
04:28:02 <fireonlive> yeah, looks like they killed the post
04:28:07 <fireonlive> https://dl.fireon.live/irc/b9f9bc803384695b/image.png
04:28:24 <fireonlive> all I found was this one person screenshotting it and tagging them
04:28:37 <fireonlive> scrubbed all but one image too I think
04:30:20 <angenieux> I wonder if the photographer or the subject got a dressing down for that
04:32:22 <fireonlive> ooh probably
06:30:07 <that_lurker> To the lounge users here. Remember to add the database cleaner configuration before updating https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge/blob/f5867c3643ba8ef24dcf5a7010f39fd6050d0954/defaults/config.js#L321
06:30:58 <fireonlive> that_lurker: it's off by default if missing right?
06:31:15 <that_lurker>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
06:31:22 <fireonlive> hm
06:31:29 <fireonlive> would be good to explicitly define though yeah
06:31:33 <fireonlive> :)
06:36:46 <that_lurker> Oh well I enabled it for my instance as after 10 years I don't care if you joined, left or changed status :P
06:37:41 <that_lurker> "- `statusOnly`: Only delete message types which are status related (e.g. away, back, join, parts, mode, ctcp...) but keep actual messages from nicks. This keeps the DB size down while retaining "precious" messages."
06:38:34 <fireonlive> :O
06:39:13 <fireonlive> that_lurker: https://dl.fireon.live/irc/d4ba4e80d890fc50/wtf-delete.png
06:40:21 <that_lurker> Well it will delete it from the DB, but text version of the logs should still contain the data if I understood correctly
06:41:13 <fireonlive> true :)
06:42:54 <that_lurker> Would be nice if the cleanup code would also rotate and compress the text logs though
06:43:02 <fireonlive> zstd all the logs!
06:43:18 <fireonlive> also if the lounge would take more care for weird channel names
06:43:26 <fireonlive> but a lot of clients have odd problems with that
06:44:00 <fireonlive> (#// and # are the same file f.e.)
06:47:27 <that_lurker> That's just good storage optimization. Why have two files when you can just have one :P
06:48:12 <fireonlive> :P
07:22:08 <fireonlive> [381] We would like to take this moment to remind you that we accept absolutely no liability for the insanity you're about to endure.
07:22:09 <fireonlive> :D
08:24:41 <pabs> new technique for blocking ssh attack botnets https://discuss.systems/@ricci/112247553557306560
08:24:53 <pabs> (based on sets of usernames)
13:33:25 <pabs> Cloudflare IPO video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcbcklrmNdM
15:21:36 <nukke> https://i.imgur.com/tbvqSs9.jpeg
15:49:04 <deadorbit> gm fam
15:54:19 <fireonlive> 👋
16:47:20 <nulldata> https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-April/225407.html
16:48:17 <fireonlive> yee :3
16:49:22 <fireonlive> see also https://circleid.com/posts/20120713_silly_bing https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-February/224864.html
16:50:00 <fireonlive> >A few years ago the bingbot got trapped but fortunately I knew someone at Microsoft who could pass the word. He reported back that while he could not go into detail, there was a great deal of animated conversation at the other end of the hall, and shortly after that it stopped.
17:31:03 <fireonlive> nicolas17: when next apple homepod
17:33:04 <deadorbit> can i run Warrior from a dedicated server?
17:43:32 <katia> deadorbit, yes, you could also run the project docker containers directly, though
17:44:20 <deadorbit> katia thats what i mean, run warrior in a docker container on a vps
17:44:27 <deadorbit> wasnt sure if the commercial IP would be a problem
17:47:22 <katia> deadorbit, see https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/telegram-grab
17:47:37 <katia> there's a docker command to run the project container directly
17:47:47 <katia> it'll be probably be less overhead than warrior
17:47:50 <katia> and you can set higher concurrency
17:48:04 <dead0rbit> ok
17:48:46 <dead0rbit> i'm getting 429'd like a mofo on the roblox project haha
17:49:04 <dead0rbit> i set up multiple instances in my house, maybe that was a bad idea >_>
17:59:35 <katia> dead0rbit, yeah, you want 1 instance, with concurrency 1, per IP, there, the rate limit is like 20/minute
18:02:47 <fireonlive> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40002532
18:07:26 <katia> for roblox comments anyway
18:49:18 <fireonlive> https://twstalker.com/itssimontime/status/1761902529078837287
18:49:20 <fireonlive> it's back!
19:37:51 <nicolas17> pabs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idwkj3bFfe0 (I didn't watch it yet)
19:53:54 <fireonlive> ugh i hate mailing list software i can't just chop off my unique email ID and forward it etc
19:54:02 <fireonlive> dun want someone to unsub me
19:54:04 <fireonlive> etc
20:36:10 <fireonlive> > I ported THOUSANDS of apps to Windows 95
20:36:10 <fireonlive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTUMNtKQLl8
20:44:59 <fireonlive> >EXT - STREET
20:44:59 <fireonlive> >"why was dotnet not released on windows 95"
20:44:59 <fireonlive> >"what is windows 95 again?"
21:17:24 <fireonlive> this is weirdly pretty well produced?
21:17:28 <fireonlive> (just background noise)
21:32:49 <fireonlive> https://dl.fireon.live/irc/ee16a1a8e4871aa8/preserve.png
22:04:11 <TheTechRobo> fireonlive: Oh, yeah, MattKC is really good production quality
22:04:31 <TheTechRobo> He's a good balance between technical and general audiences
22:06:19 <fireonlive> oh sweet
22:15:15 <rewby|backup> MattKC is always a good watch. Man is entirely too skilled for the shitposting he does.
22:17:01 <steering> fireonlive be like *adds to auto-download list*
22:17:31 <rewby|backup> Another is kkclue/planet clue
22:20:08 <fireonlive> :D
22:20:20 <fireonlive> i shall check out kkclue too thanks
22:23:33 <rewby|backup> He goes by planet clue these days
22:23:38 <rewby|backup> Still good content
22:23:44 <fireonlive> ah :)
22:23:47 <rewby|backup> Just slightly less skilled than matt
22:23:52 <rewby|backup> But very fun stuff
22:23:59 <fireonlive> that .net thing was a ride for sure
22:24:08 <fireonlive> (by matt)
22:24:12 <rewby|backup> Like, matt will reverse engineer a forgotten Lego game because he can
22:24:26 <rewby|backup> And then make a whole suite of modding tools
22:24:41 <rewby|backup> (The Lego island saga is amazing)
22:25:02 <fireonlive> i should give that a watch; i somewhat remember playing it as a kid
22:25:26 <rewby|backup> This man be making this game run properly on modern computers
22:25:29 <rewby|backup> On his own
22:25:40 <fireonlive> amazing
22:25:58 <rewby|backup> This saga is truly worth a watch
22:26:13 <fireonlive> i'll take you up on that for sure
22:26:35 <rewby|backup> https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbpl-gZkNl2Db4xcAsT_xOfOwRk-2DPHL
22:26:57 <fireonlive> :3
22:27:03 <rewby|backup> And the decomp series https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbpl-gZkNl2COf_bB6cfgTapD5WduAfPz
22:35:35 <rewby|backup> I can also recommend bringus studios. Very amusing
22:42:40 <fireonlive> "Jailbreaking a Prison Laptop to play Prison Games" haha
22:44:16 <nulldata> Heh was just about to post the MattKC video - very well done
23:09:06 <fireonlive> :3
23:31:25 <JAA> Ooh, new version of the 'Google is using brain waves to control us all' email just dropped.
23:34:33 <nulldata> Meh no need to worry imo - Google Brain Waves will enter the Graveyard soon enough.
23:35:16 <JAA> :-)
23:38:05 <fireonlive> tfw *you* end up on killedbygoogle.com
23:40:04 <nicolas17> http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/5587 x_X
23:41:38 <fireonlive> and a follow-up replies on twitter: https://twstalker.com/amichlin/status/1778492673113936007
23:42:22 <fireonlive> and a noteworthy reply to the above: https://twitter.com/phys_ballsocket/status/1778545338338464145
23:42:47 <JAA> Ouch
23:52:02 <fireonlive> twitter's new '3 clicks to see who liked this tweet' thing sucks
23:52:22 <fireonlive> hi nicolas17
23:52:24 <fireonlive> :3
23:52:46 <nicolas17> what
23:55:05 <fireonlive> you tweet liker you