00:19:48 <OrIdow6> I wish I had 10% of that confidence
00:58:49 <pabs> https://salsa.debian.org/pere/debian-assessment-form/-/raw/master/debian-form.pdf?ref_type=heads
01:00:20 <JAA> I want to know the story behind 'Petter broke it'.
01:37:16 <nicolas17> I wonder if "pacman -Syu" means "I tried this arch command on debian and it didn't work" or it means "we forgot to change this part of the form when adapting it from the arch community" :D
01:48:54 <pabs> JAA: pere == Petter
01:49:11 <pabs> self-degradation :)
01:51:31 <pabs> nicolas17: I expect its a joke, because in Debian pacman is a game, which can lead to hilarity https://packages.debian.org/sid/pacman https://bugs.debian.org/752114
01:52:06 <nicolas17> btw why does Debian not install 'sl' by default
01:52:13 <nicolas17> it should be in the base image
01:54:58 <nicolas17> "Interestingly /usr/games/pacman seems to swallow the given options without issues" yes that's what pacman does, except for --ghost
02:11:00 <JAA> pabs: Aw, I was hoping for an in-joke about how Petter repeatedly broke important Debian systems etc. :-)
02:12:43 <pabs> :) I've less than zero complaints about pere
02:14:19 <JAA> :-)
02:31:05 <nicolas17> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559767043620995105/1272743579323727922/funny-dump-ouch-schadenfreude-Good-morning.mp4?ex=66bc1653&is=66bac4d3&hm=dce3eb813879193fd43d6977b6f6167299b10693a75a94d28ef9e4754cadc33d&
02:31:08 <nicolas17> oops too much friction
02:31:54 <nicolas17> a tragedy in three acts
03:18:55 <nulldata> https://x.com/DylanMcD8/status/1822927923558383906
03:18:55 <eggdrop> nitter: https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/DylanMcD8/status/1822927923558383906
14:50:32 <kpcyrd> JAA: I think it's derived from "Allan broke it" from https://i.redd.it/aclopc97a83z.jpg, with Allan being the main dev of pacman (but is also part of Arch Linux staff)
14:51:16 <JAA> kpcyrd: Ah. Next question: where does 'Allan broke it' come from? :-P
14:51:38 <kpcyrd> "... broke it" is an Arch Linux meme but I think it's older than I've been staff so I don't know for sure
14:52:01 <kpcyrd> people also sometimes have brokeit as suffix on their irc handle
14:52:11 <JAA> Ah
14:54:27 <kpcyrd> afaik it's about (jokingly) assigning blame for some kind of problem to a single individual
14:55:52 <JAA> Yeah, we blamed fionera for any breakages here for a while. :-)
14:57:00 * kpcyrd documenting hyper-niche subcultural context
20:11:56 <immibis> hm, scihub court case is in 10 days
20:22:52 <that_lurker> is it streamed?
20:23:22 <Barto> ^ asking the right questions right there :-)
21:05:51 <datechnoman> fionera was our resident telegram url destroyer
21:13:09 <datechnoman> We need you to work your magic for a few days to get the queue back down :D
22:52:00 <nicolas17> does Electron have two copies of the V8 Javascript engine, one as part of node.js and another as part of Chromium?
22:56:15 <efi> "Electron in a simplified way is an attempt to replace the V8 engine used in Chromium with the new more general purpose oriented one of Node.js. It exposes a few extra APIs to node.js to allow for opening chromium windows, but also every chromium window using a <script> tag will interpret it with the node.js engine." - at least that's what https://stackoverflow.com/a/38166865
22:56:17 <efi> says....
22:57:34 <nicolas17> ah
22:59:21 <nicolas17> menus in VSCode 1.92 were displaying super large on Linux
22:59:37 <nicolas17> while trying to figure out what changed, I ended up at https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_92
22:59:46 <nicolas17> which makes Firefox eat 100% CPU (across 3 processes)
22:59:50 <nicolas17> the web was a mistake
23:00:54 <JAA> The web was indeed a mistake. There's now work ongoing for a JS API to summarise text with AI. :-|
23:02:05 <JAA> It's supposedly going to be a built-in model, too.
23:04:57 <efi> Let's hope it's some sort of lightweight GPT-2 and everyone will hate it.
23:05:56 <nicolas17> are they going to standardize the model?
23:06:29 <JAA> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/rCpcU0ZTgTk/m/Ru_YIYZ9AQAJ
23:07:42 <efi> That's so crazy. If we think how long it took to have a somewhat standardized solution for hyphenization...
23:12:19 <nicolas17> X_X
23:37:40 <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> I wonder if this could lead to plausible-looking SEO spam sites becoming even cheaper to create by having each visitor generate more pages of LLM spam for them...
23:39:22 <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> (would be ironic if google ended up shooting themselves in the foot by this)
23:42:09 <Flashfire42> datechnoman sorry I am trying to bring it up but a lot of the channels I find have already been run
23:42:15 <Flashfire42> Oh wait you want it DOWN