02:44:01 <JAA> https://www.lieffcabraser.com/antitrust/academic-journals/
02:51:38 <nicolas17> yessssssss
03:49:12 <steering> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/music-industrys-1990s-hard-drives-like-all-hdds-are-dying/ lol
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12:08:09 <kpcyrd> > …lawyers picked apart Wright’s claims that some of his computer documents had been typed before 2008, using evidence from font designers. The witnesses testified that some fonts “hadn’t even been created until years after the alleged date of the document”…
12:59:49 <FireFly>  heh
13:47:31 <nstrom|m> that always happens
13:47:34 <nstrom|m> people are really dumb
13:49:04 <kpcyrd> > why fraud so hard ;_;
18:01:17 <SootBector> fireonlive++
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18:01:46 <SootBector> I haven't commited enough font fraud this month
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20:41:21 <nicolas17> "Humans are incapable of storing high-quality cryptographic keys and they have unacceptable speed and accuracy when performing cryptographic operations."
20:41:28 <nicolas17> I had seen this quote before, but I didn't know that was only the first part
20:41:36 <nicolas17> it continues:
20:41:40 <nicolas17> "They are also large, expensive to maintain, difficult to manage, and they pollute the environment. It is astonishing that these devices continue to be manufactured and deployed, but they are sufficiently pervasive that we must design our systems around their limitations."
21:07:43 <nicolas17> btw if anyone wants to test their "speed and accuracy when performing cryptographic operations": https://liothique.xyz/attached_files/ManuelAES_t.pdf
21:42:28 <Barto> rc4 might be easier to do by hand... but that's rc4
21:42:47 <Barto> it's like: discard the first 2048 bytes :p
21:46:19 <nicolas17> note following all that PDF will let you encrypt a single 16-byte block
21:46:48 <Barto> of course
21:46:59 <Barto> where's ecb when you need it :p
21:47:20 <nicolas17> I wonder how hard it would be to do RSA by hand
21:47:37 <nicolas17> like, with real-world key sizes
21:48:27 <nicolas17> multiplication of long numbers would be a slow and painful O(n²) process, but I don't know how I would even do modular exp
21:51:56 <Barto> at least you need to do the smart way with squaring (just like computers does). The real question is if you want to have OAEP or PKCS#1 1.5 :p
21:57:18 <Barto> i had a teacher mention that md4 was so fast to create collisions you could do them by hand
21:57:47 <nicolas17> yes I think you can do them with 2 or 3 md4 evaluations, it's very broken
21:57:50 <Barto> and that was back in 2014
21:58:38 <nicolas17> md2 has better collision resistance
21:59:14 <Barto> that's why NTLM still uses it? :p
21:59:20 <Barto> (md4)
21:59:40 <Barto> md4 is as secure as crc32 nowadays :)
22:00:26 <nicolas17> NTLM was made by idiots, why the fuck would they split the password in halves and hash them separately
23:02:03 <Barto> :-)
23:02:14 <Barto> because some three letter agency told them so?
23:02:40 <nicolas17> hanlon's razor
23:02:42 <Barto> this is some obvious security by obscurity