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fireonlive
dave's garage? was the one caught selling scam software by the FCC right? fined for doing so etc? if that's him we should probably throw his stuff down the tube etc
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fireonlive
not that his youtube is related to the scamming people stuff but yeah
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fireonlive
(can't remember if it was him or another person, though)
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nulldata
fireonlive - which conversation are you responding to? lol The scam software and FTC fine thing was back in 2006.
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fireonlive
oh
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fireonlive
to be fair, i was quite out of it last night
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fireonlive
:D
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fireonlive
a faint memory popped up of man did bad thing
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fireonlive
that we talked about here
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fireonlive
somewhere..
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fireonlive
but yeah that long ago nvm
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Emitewiki
Hey! I found this site that has a ton of magazines with easy to use PDF readers.
issuu.com/activemediapublishinggroup/4
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Emitewiki
They seem to be all officially released for free viewing on the site by the official publisher.
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Emitewiki
It got me thinking: Is there any way for us to archive this sort of thing, in a way where we could keep the PDF readers intact?
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JAA
We had a partial project for Issuu before when they limited free accounts. → #wetakeissuu
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Emitewiki
Am I reading it right that it looks like the account limit should only affect people UPLOADING to Issu, but not downloading/accessing from it?
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JAA
→ #wetakeissuu
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Emitewiki
Sorry 😅
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JAA
Gardeners' World is still on track. :-)
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JAA
NB, as usual, only grabbing topic pages, not media. AB will have grabbed some of those, and they might survive a bit longer on the CDN.
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fireonlive
:)
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JAA
Each page of Gardeners' World is 200+ kB because they include a bunch of SVGs inline.
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JAA
Yes, even the 404s.
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fireonlive
-_-
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IDK
Hi, has anything been discussed about roblox comments?
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IDK
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IDK
testingabc: can you achieve even higher rates by switching between their PoPs?
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IDK
Someone could try to request the comment API through all of those IP address at random, it **may** confuse the system and let you request more without timing out
irccloud.com/pastebin/4gmXEXv6/roblox-ip.txt
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IDK
When I tried switching between some datacenters reset the limit and some doesnt
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Mannie
atlasvpn shuts down on april 24:
atlasvpn.com/blog/announcement
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Mannie
gigaset smart home stops with service on 29 march
gigaset.com/be_nl/cms/smart-home-overzicht.html
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Mannie
predaid sim provider ortel mobile will be shut down on the first of july
ortel.nl/nl/over-ortel
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fireonlive
IDK: they're gone now, but did mention .4 was CHI and .8 was ASH and you can achieve 20 requests per min instead of 10 by switching between them
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JAA
It looks like my Gardeners' World grab finished in time.
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IDK
fireonlive: "they are gone now"??
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IDK
also from what I researched .4 and .8 doesnt always go to ASH, sometimes .8 goes to CHI3 which still resets the ratelimiting
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IDK
depends on the PoP you are on
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JAA
The person who shared the info is gone now.
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immibis
I figured that atlas nord and surfshark were all different branches of the same company anyway - what's that thing where you sell lots of different brands but they're all just you
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IDK
oh
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immibis
shutting down vpns and cell providers isn't really an archiving issue, all their data is ephemeral...
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thecommentarchiver
fireonlive Still here :)
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IDK
also this will be a REALLY fun project if we are going to do it
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IDK
look at the api
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IDK
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IDK
cachebuster=4134
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IDK
everytime you click load more a new "cachebuster" number get generated, so there is a 1/9999 chance that wayback machine will display it
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IDK
but api response still worth archiving
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immibis
this is why wbm needs pattern rewrites
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IDK
or we theoretically could just assume cachebuster=1-9999 is all the same reponse and we just grab one and submit all 1-9999, but we are probably not supposed to do that
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thecommentarchiver
IDK I have never experienced ASH load balancers directing to CHI servers. Weird.
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IDK
probably chrome host caching or caching in general
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thecommentarchiver
Likely
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IDK
also should we "realive" #robloxd
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IDK
for the comment archive thing
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fireonlive
thecommentarchiver: sneaky!
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fireonlive
:)
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fireonlive
hmm does eggdrop handle that
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fireonlive
!seen testingabc
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eggdrop
[seen] testingabc (~testingab⊙1151) was last seen quitting from #archiveteam-ot 14 hours 28 minutes 46 seconds ago (2024-03-27T02:39:26Z), stating "Client Quit"
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fireonlive
ah not if quit
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IDK
anyways, there are also .3, which is also CHI and doesnt seem to reset the rate limit
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thecommentarchiver
There's only CHI and ASH accessible. If I remember correctly, .7 is also ASH.
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IDK
.7 doesnt really work at least on some endpoints
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IDK
Pinging 128.116.115.7 with 32 bytes of data:
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IDK
Request timed out.
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IDK
JAA: can you even force the warrior to use a specific IP address or cycle through IP addresses at random
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thecommentarchiver
.9 will always return maintenance since that's it's only job
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JAA
I don't recall whether wget-at has a hook for that.
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nstrom|m
It has host file support, so could probably use that
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IDK
yep so if we are going to do it, we can just do add 10 to startindex=0 until no more comment
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IDK
I dont think bashing it repeatedly from different endpoint will prolong the ratelimiting
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thecommentarchiver
Someone told me there's an undocumented API that returns an "enableComments" field. It also has a ratelimit but you can request info for multiple assets at once. It could be used to save requests for the comments API.
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thecommentarchiver
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thecommentarchiver
Requires you to be authenticated to use it.
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IDK
pretty sure need to be authenticated on the account that u own the item
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thecommentarchiver
No, you need to be authenticated to use the API. You don't need to own the item for the API to return the asset info.
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thecommentarchiver
Example API response:
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thecommentarchiver
{
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thecommentarchiver
"data": [
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thecommentarchiver
{
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thecommentarchiver
"id": 1818,
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thecommentarchiver
"type": "Place",
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thecommentarchiver
"typeId": 9,
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thecommentarchiver
"name": "Classic: Crossroads",
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thecommentarchiver
"description": "The classic ROBLOX level is back!",
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thecommentarchiver
"creator": {
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thecommentarchiver
"type": "User",
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thecommentarchiver
"typeId": 1,
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thecommentarchiver
"targetId": 1
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thecommentarchiver
},
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thecommentarchiver
"genres": [
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thecommentarchiver
"Ninja"
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thecommentarchiver
],
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thecommentarchiver
"created": "2007-05-01T01:07:04.78Z",
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thecommentarchiver
The comments API will only return comments if "enableComments" is set to true it seems. This can be used to reduce the number of redundant requests made to the comments API.
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Dango360
how many can you fit in the assetIds parameter before it fails?
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thecommentarchiver
I have yet to check that
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IDK
tbh I dont know if we *have* to use the provided API or we can do it in an alternative way since I have never seen a project where we sent request authenticated
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Dango360
just checked, seems to be 50 ids
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thecommentarchiver
The provided API could be used to reduce the number of redundant requests made using the comments API to assets that have comments disabled
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IDK
maybe yea
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h2ibot
FireonLive edited Mastodon (-2, fix ref url):
wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51946&oldid=51711
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IDK
but I wonder where are we going to actually get the ID from
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thecommentarchiver
It isn't required but the comments API only really allows 20 requests per minute and many Roblox assets either have comments disabled or do not support comments (such as Places)
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IDK
yh but I wonder is there a more efficient way to find items
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IDK
id bruteforcing is out of question here
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IDK
are we going into random users inventory to get whatever shirts and pants they bought, or are we going on marketplace and only do UGC, or both
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thecommentarchiver
There really isn't a more efficient way of finding comments enabled assets other than ID bruteforcing. Getting random user's inventories will miss many assets, such as off-sale items (ID 770, 771, etc.)
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IDK
yh ID bruteforcing isnt happening, roblox IDs arent that "bruteforce friendly"
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IDK
i think going into random inventory and grab whatever is on that 25 page catalog might be the only way
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IDK
roblox IDs have massive gaps
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thecommentarchiver
Not quite. There's only two massive gaps from 2006 & 2007. That's about it.
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Dango360
we could let people send in asset ids that they want archived
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Dango360
a bit like how blogger or imgur was done
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IDK
thecommentarchiver: but yeah not all of them are clothing, most of them are probably starter places that have 0 visits and no comments
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IDK
btw, who is even going to code all of this
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katia
they who ask it, code it.
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» katia ducks
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thecommentarchiver
0-769 do not exist and ~59000 to 999999 do not exist. Everything else exists.
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arkiver
up to which ID does it go?
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arkiver
when is the deadline?
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IDK
april 9th, but the API ratelimiting is hell
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IDK
10 request per minute max, bumped to 20 if you switch between 2 endpoints
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Dango360
ok so all games and roblox-owned items had their comments removed in 2016 (
roblox.fandom.com/wiki/Comments); does anyone have an example of a place/roblox item that kept their comments intact?
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IDK
no, they are all removed
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IDK
arkiver: bruteforcing doesnt really work, you will probably have to go into people's inventory to find clothing
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IDK
there is too much IDs for 404 and places, basically unbruteforable
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thecommentarchiver
Dango360 ID 770 is an example
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arkiver
so up to which ID?
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thuban
arkiver: probing
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IDK
arkiver: 12014070386 is a valid shirt ID I just found
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IDK
so basically comically large
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Dango360
thecommentarchiver: technically, but i think it was referring to all assets on @Roblox (account id 1) being deleted. @Toolbox wasn't affected by it
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arkiver
12 billion would be possible, but if they have truly horrible rate limiting it will be difficult
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IDK
u can use the inventory API to get someone's shirts/tshirt/pants for up to 100 items
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IDK
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IDK
idk how cursor works but that allows you to view more
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IDK
catalog API can probably show if comments are enabled or not
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Dango360
btw badges still have their comments from before it was hidden from the website (2018)
roblox.com/comments/get-json?assetId=14417332&startindex=7510
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JAA
Let's move this Roblox discussion to the Roblox channel: #robloxd
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thuban
< immibis> I figured that atlas nord and surfshark were all different branches of the same company anyway - what's that thing where you sell lots of different brands but they're all just you
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thuban
^ white-labeling
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nicolas17
data.nicolas17.xyz/samsung-grab samsung published a handful new files
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nicolas17
imer: any news about that corrupted zip?
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magmaus3
btw, has anyone done a backup of downloads on htcdev? (<
htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads>)
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imer
nicolas17: nope.
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imer
still waiting for a follow up
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nicolas17
last file in samsung-grab is a 4.3GB chonker
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icedice
<thuban> < immibis> I figured that atlas nord and surfshark were all different branches of the same company anyway - what's that thing where you sell lots of different brands but they're all just you
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icedice
They're run by the same Lithuanians
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icedice
Time4VPS which is probably the biggest VPS provider in Lithuania has said to not host VPNs there if you want privacy, it's only suitable for bypassing geo-blocks
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icedice
So I wonder if the Lithuanian government has started making demands from NordVPN and Surfshark yet
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immibis
any VPN can anonymise you to a website, just not to the government
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immibis
if you find yourself wanting to be anonymous to websites then use a VPN
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Darken
Anyone know if there's a way to change my name on here while keeping the same account?
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JAA
Darken: /msg NickServ HELP GROUP + /msg NickServ HELP SET ACCOUNTNAME
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Darken
Trying to change my name to JaffaCakes118 but it says Nick JaffaCakes118 is not registered
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JAA
Yes, as expected.
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JAA
That's why I pointed at GROUP first.
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steering
/nick JaffaCakes118 ; /ns group ; /ns set accountname JaffaCakes118
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Darken
a /msg NickServ nick
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Darken
oops
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JaffaCakes118
/ns group
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JaffaCakes118
Ah done ty
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JaffaCakes118
Thanks guys
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fireonlive
also `/msg hostserv take hackint/user/$account` to cloak your IP/host
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fireonlive
(don't change $account)
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fireonlive
JaffaCakes118: ^
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JaffaCakes118
fireonlive thank you!
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fireonlive
!tell JaffaCakes118 welcome! :3
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eggdrop
[tell] ok, I'll tell JaffaCakes118 when they join next
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eggdrop
[tell] JaffaCakes118: [2024-03-27T19:54:21Z] <fireonlive> welcome! :3
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Darken
Is there anyway I can login using my new username instead of my old one?
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fireonlive
looks like you got the nick but not logged in
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fireonlive
you can also set the 'server password' to JaffaCakes118:passwordhere if your client doesn't support sasl
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JaffaCakes118
It says
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JaffaCakes118
[NOTICE] This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
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JaffaCakes118
[NOTICE] You are now identified for JaffaCakes118.
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JaffaCakes118
When I log in
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JAA
That's how it works when you don't use SASL.
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JaffaCakes118
I am though
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JaffaCakes118
I'm trying through hexchat and webirc.hackint.org
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JAA
No, you won't get that notice when you use SASL.
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JaffaCakes118
ooh I see
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JAA
And I'm pretty sure the webchat doesn't support SASL.
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h2ibot
FireonLive edited Current Projects (+120, add Tor URLs skeleton):
wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=51947&oldid=51942
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JaffaCakes118
It asks for a username and password, guessing that isn't SASL
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steering
yeah you do
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steering
well, i'm using certfp not sasl, but
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steering
dunno how the webchat identifies, but it's broken anyway cuz it tries to identify you to whatever nickname you *get* instead of whatever nickname you *choose*
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JaffaCakes118
Yeah SASL fails when I try to login with my name and password on the webchat but works fine in hexchat
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fireonlive
also webchat disconnects you randomly
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JaffaCakes118
Yeah I noticed that, was very annoying
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JaffaCakes118
Does it say I'm currently signed in now?
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JaffaCakes118
With sasl
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steering
we cant tell how you signed in but you are signed in
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JaffaCakes118
Ok good
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JaffaCakes118
Guess I just can't use the webchat anymore lol
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fireonlive
for the best
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JAA
The web client is mostly useful for random people to drop by once. It's not really suitable for long-term use.
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JaffaCakes118
Yeah I plan on staying, been here for a bit now under the name Darken, thought I might as well change my name to the name I use on the tracker leaderboards
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qwertyasdfuiopghjkl
I think webchat used to do SASL (at least I think that's what that means), but it recently stopped working at the same time the UI changed, so I'm guessing an update broke it or something.
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icedice
<immibis> any VPN can anonymise you to a website, just not to the government
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icedice
Depends on the government
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icedice
And which part of it
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icedice
If it's the sheriff's office in bumfuck nowhere, Mississippi or some underfunded developing country it might be doable, assuming you have some VPN users to blend in with or are not local
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JAA
This sounds like a discussion for -ot.
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icedice
If it's the N S A, then yeah, it's not going to work
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icedice
I'm done
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Gooshka
Looks like there is another web hosting, 4nmv.ru; example of website:
books.4nmv.ru , other I saw via google:
google.com/search?q=site:4nmv.ru
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nicolas17
nstrom|m: did that 4GB samsung beast finish downloading?
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nstrom|m
lemme check