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pabs
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pabs
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nicolas17
pabs: some links on the bountysource article go to the WBM
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nicolas17
and that's how I find out that the WBM is down
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fireonlive
no one panic...
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fireonlive
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fireonlive
nice icon
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pabs
hmm, works for me nicolas17
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nicolas17
JAA confirmed there was an outage
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nicolas17
maybe it's fixed now
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JAA
As usual, they had a power outage.
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EvanBoehs|m
pabs: ello
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pabs
yo
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pabs
EvanBoehs|m is the author of the bountysource post I linked above
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EvanBoehs|m
I can't see history, I hope all good discussion!
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EvanBoehs|m
yeah so my blog didn't do much interesting until quite recently, and it was interesting to see it on HN a few months ago, but there's this constant thing where it drops incredibly unaturally off the front page
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EvanBoehs|m
it's either moderators or user reports that can trigger that
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EvanBoehs|m
works in mysterious ways, I really wish they had a modlog
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nicolas17
EvanBoehs|m: there wasn't much discussion here actually ^^
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nicolas17
other than me finding out from a link on your blog post that the wayback machine had an outage
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EvanBoehs|m
oh that's rare, I don't think I've ever seen that
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nicolas17
a friend in another chat made an interesting point though
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nicolas17
"if we talk about open source ecosystem being a disaster, the fact that we're bothered to discuss $17k as a hit to it is extremely telling in itself"
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pabs
quite
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EvanBoehs|m
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I actually thought bountysource was a good idea. All this was because I was talking about OSS funding with a friend today and I was trying to find the service, and it just disappeared
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» pabs if there are any sane alternatives to bountysource
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nicolas17
like in an ideal world 17k would be a single bounty's amount not the whole unpaid pool
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pabs
the fossjobs wiki has some other bounty sites btw
github.com/fossjobs/fossjobs/wiki/Resources
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nicolas17
pabs: bountysource was owned by a blockchain company
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pabs
that tells you everything you need to know...
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nicolas17
while the alternative sites I know of are *actually* using cryptocurrency in the service, so it's even worse
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EvanBoehs|m
algora.io seems ok
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fireonlive
x_x
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EvanBoehs|m
nicolas17: not originally
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fireonlive
that name rings a bell.. but I can't place it
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nicolas17
I mean I don't think bountysource ever implemented cryptocurrency payments even after acquisition, did they?
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nicolas17
meanwhile you have shit like gitcoin
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EvanBoehs|m
Not positive, I actually only discovered after post acquisition (but before it went to hell) and my opinion always was it looked a little sketchy so i didn't investigate more
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nicolas17
which being based on an Ethereum token seems to mainly fund crypto-adjacent projects anyway
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EvanBoehs|m
there's an open issue in liberapay to support pay-per-work I believe
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EvanBoehs|m
but liberapay right now is exclusively a donations platform, so you contractually cannot offer service in response to a donation
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nicolas17
I'd like some non-binding "I'm interested in *this* project" thing on liberapay at least
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EvanBoehs|m
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nicolas17
I'm spread over a dozen projects, you're giving me money, what do you want me to work on
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EvanBoehs|m
yeah I agree, liberapay should at the very least add a "message" field
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EvanBoehs|m
I've been messing around a lot with donations, nothing has been successful overall (my revenue per 1000 visitors is around $0.85 right now, so that means it would take 100 million viewers to make a living)
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EvanBoehs|m
I thought that liberapay might be a barrier as it's so esoteric, but the kofi didn't change anything
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fireonlive
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EvanBoehs|m
I was hoping I could pull a daring fireball and get rich as fuck off corporate sponsorships,
daringfireball.net/feeds/sponsors, but no company has bit
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EvanBoehs|m
so idk, i might just remove the donation links
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pabs
yeah, I just put that in AB fireonlive :)
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fireonlive
:)
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fireonlive
oh i missed that
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fireonlive
copped it from a discussion a friend and I had earlier today haha
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EvanBoehs|m
I support this license. Just like I supported redis
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nicolas17
I'm spread over enough things and niche-enough things that that's unlikely to work :p
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EvanBoehs|m
The OSI has stupid definitions of open source
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nicolas17
at least now I'm trying to make things more visible
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fireonlive
nicolas17, spread out?
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EvanBoehs|m
and the only conceivable benefit to it is that it helps large companies
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fireonlive
hm
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pabs
fireonlive: its also linked by the the other post I sent aboue
hazy.sh/blog/i-dont-care-what-the-osi-thinks
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fireonlive
ah!
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fireonlive
:)
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» pabs wonders if we ever saved OSI
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EvanBoehs|m
like literally none of these points make any sense
ssplisbad.com
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nicolas17
it was annoying me when I researched Apple stuff and talked about it in chat, and then someone *else* tweeted it and got credited by MacRumors, and then I realized if that's bothering me then why don't I tweet it first
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EvanBoehs|m
Life isn't fair
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EvanBoehs|m
Objectively
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EvanBoehs|m
I mean again, I've learned a lot trying to write for profit over these past few months.
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EvanBoehs|m
Another fun one
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EvanBoehs|m
Is that I got 1m views on my XZ article. I was one of the first to write about it. And then I was outranked by the NYT and a million other sites that linked to me but did nothing original
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nicolas17
the redis situation is kinda weird because the company saying "we need to fund development!" was not the original developer of redis and is not even doing most of the commits now
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EvanBoehs|m
and I mean it was cool that I got linked to by the new york times but meh traffic
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pabs
have you written anything for LWN EvanBoehs|m ?
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EvanBoehs|m
No
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pabs
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EvanBoehs|m
Am I allowed to publish LWN articles to my own site as well?
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pabs
I think after the 2 week paywall ends yeah
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pabs
they don't pay a large amount though
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pabs
"We will currently pay $400 for well-done articles from new authors. That figure does go up quite substantially for authors who, over time, establish a record of good writing and on-time contributions. "
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EvanBoehs|m
That's a hell of a lot better than my current rates, let me tell you
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EvanBoehs|m
I mean its the same thing with substack. Substack gets a lot of hate for its annoying popups. But I bet they work
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pabs
" We ask that you grant LWN exclusive rights to publish your work during the LWN subscription period - currently up to two weeks after publication."
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EvanBoehs|m
Being good to readers costs me money, I wrote about that here:
boehs.org/node/llms-destroying-internet
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EvanBoehs|m
pabs: Cool, I might reach out
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pabs
good luck :)
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nicolas17
did you see the article about the assholes in charge of Google Search nowadays? :P
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EvanBoehs|m
I think so, didn't get to read it
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nicolas17
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EvanBoehs|m
Yeah, its in my todo that one
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EvanBoehs|m
My next plan to try to make money was to make a commercial service and use my own advertising framework that was originally designed for corporate sponsorships to promote it. At my traffic levels, it might work.
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EvanBoehs|m
I was going to make it open source, whatever it might be, but I am seriously reconsidering
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EvanBoehs|m
With XZ and this and all the other abuse I've documented and still intend to document, my faith in foss is at an all time low
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EvanBoehs|m
which saddens me
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EvanBoehs|m
lol maybe my thing is i recreate bountysource
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nicolas17
snowdrift.coop seems like a cool idea that has had way too slow development progress
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nicolas17
and it looks like they put more effort in comprehensibly documenting how the model works and why it's the right way to do it
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nicolas17
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nicolas17
than in actually implementing it
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nicolas17
"We've been pretty quiet for the past⦠er⦠five(?) years." -- July 2021
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nicolas17
looks like you can actually send money to snowdrift itself using the platform? wow progress
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EvanBoehs|m
nicolas17: That's so real
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nicolas17
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EvanBoehs|m
Snowdrift also has the most comprehensive documentation of competing services I've ever seen
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pabs
someone should archive their stuff
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EvanBoehs|m
I mean they're right that all the ways to get paid for free stuff sucks. The problem is that people aren't paying me right now, and I don't see how snowdrift would change that
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pabs
you would probably be getting paid if FOSS won instead of Apple/etc :)
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EvanBoehs|m
lowkey I was mostly hoping tidelift would pay me to put their ads in
tidelift.com
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EvanBoehs|m
fits perfectly into the article
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EvanBoehs|m
unfortunately, they have not offered
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» pabs wonders when hire.sr.ht will come online
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EvanBoehs|m
oh the maintainer pitch is better
tidelift.com/about/lifter
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EvanBoehs|m
thanks, I've applied to LWN
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nicolas17
is tidelift still all about language-package-manager dependencies?
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nicolas17
it was funny to see one of the founders saying "this is why we made tidelift" on twitter in response to the xz situation, when I don't think xz / Lasse Collin would be eligible for tidelift
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EvanBoehs|m
Oh you're right that is funny
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EvanBoehs|m
Still, their model makes sense to me. Sell some... I don't even know... Some whatever service to corporations and then use that to turn around and fund FOSS
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EvanBoehs|m
like it is a solid plan
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pabs
there was another one that caused the funding to go deeper into dependency trees, thought that was better
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pabs
but none of these FOSS funding projects even consider individual contributors, they are all about maintainers. not thinking holistically
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nicolas17
yeah
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nicolas17
or tools
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EvanBoehs|m
oh I know which one you're talking about, the dependency tree one, let me find it
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nicolas17
SaaS company paying tidelift for the 1000 node.js dependencies they use won't end up paying the developers of the FOSS text editor they also use
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EvanBoehs|m
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EvanBoehs|m
I mean again I truely believe the only way to have your project be both open source and profitable is to put it under a license corporations hate and sell proper ones
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EvanBoehs|m
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pabs
I think there are projects like Blender that show an alternative to offering paid special licenses to corporations
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pabs
Stackaid, that was it
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EvanBoehs|m
I don't know how blender made it work. I do agree that they are somehow making it work. I just don't know how. They very much are the exception
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EvanBoehs|m
And even then, if it was commercial we both know they'd make 10x more
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pabs
yeah
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pabs
its basically crowdfunding, get a large audience and small payments per contributor, incentivise contribution at every point. Krita and others are doing similar things
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pabs
probably they are doing more things though
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nicolas17
Krita is charging for the app on proprietary app stores
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EvanBoehs|m
Of the $1300 I've ever made from programming, $250 was from astro, which I am eternally grateful for. They just decided to give me money!
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pabs
(and has gratis downloads for the same app on their website)
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nicolas17
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EvanBoehs|m
* from programming and anything tech related, $250
-
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nicolas17
I think it's more expensive on the Mac App Store to make up for the pain in the ass it was to deal with Apple and mandatory sandboxing
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EvanBoehs|m
I paid $600 for a company a few months ago because of apple
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nicolas17
wat
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pabs
you bought a company?!
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EvanBoehs|m
No, I founded one
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EvanBoehs|m
Not actually doing anything with it, but I was going to publish an app
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EvanBoehs|m
In MA the company costs $500
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fireonlive
ssh: connect to host penis.buttler.local port 22: Operation timed out
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fireonlive
well no wonder homeassistant didn't do the things
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fireonlive
"ok, I understand that, at some point in time, somebody saw a bug on a bed and just thought 'yeah I'm going to name them bed bugs'... yeah that makes sense! ...now who the fuck named cockroaches?"
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pabs
nice punchline...
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fireonlive
:)
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fireonlive
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nicolas17
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JAA
(From #archivebot)
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JAA
katia: It does the things I've thrown at it so far pretty well, but it does get hot and needs a fan on top.
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katia
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katia
they're tiny and have a fan which they do need
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JAA
Oh yeah, I was looking at those as well.
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katia
but, they're realtek
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JAA
I like that mine has a DP out. DP > HDMI any day.
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katia
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katia
these look so cute
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JAA
I don't remember specifically why I decided against the Firebat though.
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katia
probably the NICs?
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JAA
Maybe, but I don't think so.
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katia
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katia
even has RJ54
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» fireonlive frames that quote on my wall
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JAA
The one about DP?
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JAA
Preemptive <bonk.webp>
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fireonlive
ye :p
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fireonlive
π΅βπ«
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» katia bonk fireonlive
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fireonlive
π΅βπ«
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JAA
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 1 karma!
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fireonlive
π΅βπ«
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JAA
I think we need to track these.
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katia
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 2 karma!
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fireonlive
π΅βπ«
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katia
he's gonna game the numbers!
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fireonlive
π
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fireonlive
i need to replace my aging dell optiplex 'server' i have at home lol
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fireonlive
i had a nuc but it sent it to live with a friend who has better internet so just grabbed whatever i could find for free :p
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kiska
How long does OVH deliver Kimsufi?
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fireonlive
whenever something 4k/high bitrate comes up on plex it just cries and dies
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kiska
On average?
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katia
is it your first order?
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kiska
No
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kiska
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katia
what time did it say when you ordered
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nyany
kiska: 120 seconds, honestly we're talking OVH
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kiska
About an hour ago?
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nyany
it can take a few hours
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nyany
they should honestly just change the seconds part to minutes
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kiska
OVH has also duplicated the order and charged me twice...
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JAA
I still can't find anything but laptops with the Ryzen 7440U. :-|
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kiska
Try aliexpress :D
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katia
i want ks-1
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JAA
kiska: I did.
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kiska
Try harder?
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Notrealname1234
God, will JAA archivebot the link that kiska sent
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kiska
Yes
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nyany
kiska: also depending on your product the set up fee is the same as the product monthly charge
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kiska
Setup was free
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nyany
unless you selected a 6 or 12 month commitment
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nyany
on eligivle servers
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kiska
I have 2 order numbers...
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kiska
I think I can cancel within 14 days of it being made without penalty
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nyany
Is one a prorata invoice
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JAA
I think minisforum was going to sell a device with that CPU, but then they just didn't, as they've done before.
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kiska
Nope
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nyany
open a ticket
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Notrealname1234
He did it :troll:
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nyany
out of curiosity which server did you get
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kiska
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kiska
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that_lurker
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 3 karma!
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kiska
lmao
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Notrealname1234
Nows it his chance
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kiska
fireonlive bonk++\
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kiska
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 4 karma!
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nyany
ah ok
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kiska
:D
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Notrealname1234
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 5 karma!
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that_lurker
Once that hits 920 does that mean fireonlives head is cooked :P
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nyany
I have a slightly beefier version of that server
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JAA
I'm so annoyed that OVH's interface hides the disk information. You have to click around and stuff.
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katia
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 6 karma!
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kiska
But yeah, from what I am reading that link says I can cancel when it gets delivered to me without any issue
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kiska
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 7 karma!
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kiska
lmao :D
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nyany
kiska: yeah, right of withdrawal in the eu
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nyany
its 14 days, but some providers i think give more depending
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kiska
Specifically in the EU or is it worldwide?
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kiska
Or rather does OVH apply it worldwide?
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nyany
Not sure
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nyany
I mean you didn't mean to order 2 servers so I'm sure support is gonna understand that
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that_lurker
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nyany
JAA: Do you mean when you're reimaging and want a different raid configuration?
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nyany
because JFC that system is annoying
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JAA
If you do that 14-day thing too often, don't forget to whine about it on LET:
lowendtalk.com/discussion/194243/be…-you-dont-make-it-through-the-month
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nyany
LOL
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fireonlive
π΅βπ«π΅βπ«π΅βπ«
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JAA
nyany: No, I mean looking at their server offers and not seeing immediately what disks they have. At best, you get a hint whether it's HDD or SSD through the name on the SYS servers. But else you need to go through every single one.
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nyany
I didn't even realize Hetzner did that as a matter of fact until I cancelled one of my auction servers like 6 days after it was delivered and I didn't get charged
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nyany
Oh right
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nyany
they tell you HDD or SSD but dont really tell you until you either go to purchase it or expand for more info
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nyany
it's annoying
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nyany
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Notrealname1234
fireonlive bonk--
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 6 karma!
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Notrealname1234
Undid
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JAA
Also, their site has awful rendering performance and turns my CPU fan into a jet engine for a solid 20 seconds because JS reasons.
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nyany
This will probably date my service a bit but
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nyany
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nyany
That's one of the Kimsufis I have, and the one that I rely on the most for archiving
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JAA
What's even better about the disk thing is that there is a filter, but you can only choose between SATA/NVMe and filter by disk size. You can't filter HDD vs SSD.
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JAA
NVMe is going to be SSD of course, but SATA could be either.
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JAA
It's so fucking stupid...
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nyany
I was looking at Hetzners storage stuff recently
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nyany
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kiska
lol :D
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nyany
that SX295 nearly made me drop my... wallet
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JAA
Oh, new ones!
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nyany
14x22TB of spinning rust glory
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JAA
Oh yeah, that's the spot.
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nyany
LOL
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Notrealname1234
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kiska
They have a AX42 available
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nyany
Yeah but like
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» fireonlive wonders if nyany owns archive.monster
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nyany
2x512GB NVMe
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nyany
fireonlive: I do
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fireonlive
π₯΅
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Notrealname1234
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nyany
Would you prefer 2x512GB NVMe or 2x1.92GB NVMe + more spinning rust than your car
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nyany
sorry, 2x 7.68 TB NVMe. I misread. Jeeeeeez
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fireonlive
i do need storage space...
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fireonlive
for my uh
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fireonlive
documents
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nyany
Well Hetzner apparently has your "document" storage needs covered
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fireonlive
:3c
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nyany
But I reckon a VPN may be more in your best interest
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nyany
because uh
-
nyany
You never know who might be listening in to steal your "documents"
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fireonlive
those bastards
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» fireonlive crypt
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nyany
SECURE YOUR IDENTITY AND PREVENT "DOCUMENT" THEFT WITH TODAY'S SPONSOR, SURFSHARK VPN
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nyany
had to.
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fireonlive
you can anytime ;)
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nyany
* Note, I do not specifically endorse nor recommend Surfshark
-
katia
kiska, the EX44 seems a better value still
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nyany
disregard katia, get SX295
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katia
ok got 3
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nyany
more money equals more room for "documents"
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katia
for high availability
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kiska
I don't require any of those
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JAA
Funnily, I've only seen Surfshark in mocking quotes, not in actual sponsor messages. It's always been NordVPN there. Guess I don't watch the 'right' videos.
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katia
will cancel in 14 days
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fireonlive
i require 300TB storage space
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fireonlive
please provide
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nyany
fireonlive: SX295
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nyany
like literally
-
nyany
this server is the answer to the universe
-
nyany
life
-
nyany
everything
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katia
why is it so expense then?
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JAA
That isn't the AX42?
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fireonlive
boyfriend? SX295
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nyany
shut up JAA lol
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JAA
:-)
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fireonlive
life savings? SX295
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fireonlive
housing? SX295
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nyany
yeah
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fireonlive
:3
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katia
does not have a gpu
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nyany
Like literally the server is neither a problem or a solution
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katia
cannot do AI
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nyany
no but you could literally store so many documents on that bad boy
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nyany
seriously y u no by
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fireonlive
you'll never have to leave your goon chamber
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fireonlive
i mean your legal document review desk
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JAA
Looks like these new offers are the cheapest per TB pretty much anywhere currently.
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JAA
Cheaper than auction servers, even.
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JAA
SX135 specifically
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JAA
β¬1.16/TB/mo
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JAA
(+ VAT if applicable)
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katia
can we share one
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nyany
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nyany
compared to this the sx295 runs circles around it
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kiska
Now I wait for OVH support to answer me about my duplicate order :(
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katia
they're gonna take like a week or 8 kiska
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JAA
You get what you pay for in terms of support, yeah.
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kiska
Yay :D
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nyany
they didn't take long to tell me to go pound sand after I complained that they were charging me more for a server than they offer on their website
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JAA
Heh
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nyany
and yes, katia - That server (aka fourone or the "problem child") is scheduled for cancellation at the end of this month
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katia
\o/
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katia
finally
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nyany
i've never had so many issues with a single server before
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JAA
Replacing it with an SX295?
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katia
death2thatserveur
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katia
write off and SX295
-
katia
right now
-
nyany
one of the disks died or was dying, bad stick of ram
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nyany
shall I go on
-
JAA
Sounds fun
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katia
SX295 without the ipv4 so you save 1.70β¬!
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fireonlive
2 archiveteamers one VPS
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nyany
hot
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fireonlive
:3
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fireonlive
ππ
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JAA
Nice
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JAA
π©
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katia
fireonlive bonk++
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eggdrop
[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 7 karma!
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fireonlive
π΅βπ«
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kiska
If OVH doesn't cancel the duplicate order I have a use for it anyway... I'll migrate the grafana machine over
-
kiska
I am close to running out of storage
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fireonlive
+rss- Show HN: gpudeploy.com β "Airbnb" for GPUs: Hi HN,YC w24 company here. We just pivoted from drone delivery to build gpudeploy.com, a website that routes on-demand traffic for GPU instances to idle compute resources.The experience is similar to lambda labs, which weβve really enjoyed for training our robotics models, but their GPUs are
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fireonlive
never available for on-demand. We are also trying to make it more [...]
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40260259
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fireonlive
>"Airbnb" for GPUs
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fireonlive
>
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fireonlive
>>>>>>>
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fireonlive
huh
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JAA
So BOINC with a GPU payload?
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nyany
mmmm boinc payloads
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JAA
The pivot from drone delivery is fun.