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immibis
datechnoman: you just need some more telegram workers or that person has some special sauce?
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steering
efi: yes but now there are only 2-3 choices that anyone cares about and they work together instead of MS-esque competition so it's easy to have standardized solutions for anything :)
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steering
also, surely giving websites access to the OS's AI model won't ever turn out to be a problem
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datechnoman
immibis - that special someone has access to an ISP IP range
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immibis
i bet there's a few people around who have /24s as well (which is not ISP size, not without CGNAT anyway)
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steering
I want a /24. We could even make decent use of it but my boss said no :'(
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immibis
well you can't get one now, but there are a surprising (to me) amount of individuals who've had one for a while to experiment with
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immibis
(you can get one from a hosting provider, that has a valid justification to own /16s or bigger, for an exorbitant monthly fee)
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immibis
(and you need a RIR-valid justification to rent it from them)
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nicolas17
a friend registered a shell company and got an AS and IPv6 range
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nicolas17
no IPv4 though
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nicolas17
the whois description says "welcome to our ASN uwu"
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steering
immibis: you can buy one from someone else, but yes
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steering
arin "only" has two years of backlog on their ipv4 waiting list now :D
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steering
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nicolas17
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eggdrop
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nicolas17
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immibis
nicolas17: you don't even need a company for that. Idk about your region but RIPE is happy to assign those to individuals.
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immibis
there's tons of networking hobbyists here. Look at fog-IX's peering list on PeeringDB
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immibis
i was researching this because I wanted a colo server connected directly to an IX for some project, though it seems the benefit/cost ratio of that is less than 1.0 at the moment so it won't be doing it
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immibis
cost is like, an order of magnitude lower than I thought, but still too high to justify
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immibis
it's kinda interesting to see how the Internet is physically connected. If you want a really fast internet connection to *one specific company* you can put your servers close on the network to their servers, like on the same IX, and pay much much less to get a good speed between you and them, than you'd have to pay for general Internet access
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immibis
you can also get a connection between two fixed locations. I was quoted 7000€/month for 100Gbps over 600km, between two major centers
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katia_
nukke, please keep ipv6 enabled on your windows stuff and help adoptance of new internet standards by enabling it on 3 more today
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nukke
thank you for the tip
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Barto
what is the complexity of buying a good ipv6 range and routing it to your home? That'd help getting through simple ip bans
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Barto
(considering no ipv6 -> ipv4 hop is used...)
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nukke
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eggdrop
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nicolas17
Backblaze just posted an article on its blog like "IPv6 is the future"
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nicolas17
no it's not the future, IPv6 is the present, it was standardized in 1998, you're just late like everyone else
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JAA
It has been the future for, uh, 25-ish years.
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nicolas17
when a politician says "new technologies" to refer to the Internet
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JAA
For the Germans: 'Neuland'
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nicolas17
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Barto
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nukke
fuuuuuuuuuuuck
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immibis
update your windows systems right now if you don't want to be hacked
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immibis
they found a way to hack any windows system (any version) over the internet without you having to click on anything
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nukke
which CVE was that?
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JAA
CVE-2024-38063
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nukke
holy macaroni, that sounds bad
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» Barto laughs in linux
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nukke
linux barely supports ipv4, let alone ipv6
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immibis
cve 2024 38063
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immibis
nukke: idk if you're joking - more routers run linux than windows
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steering
so i'm adding a general ipv6 block rule at work
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immibis
i have like 20 network namespaces
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immibis
and multiple copies of bird2
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immibis
nicolas17: the majority of internet traffic is IPv6
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JAA
I wonder whether Linux has support for more obscure versions, like IPv5 or IPv7.
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immibis
if so, it would be an out-of-tree module or patchset
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JAA
Yeah, likely.
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immibis
mainstream linux supports what mainstream linux supports. not-mainstream linux *can* be made to support almost anything, that's how we get linux running on toasters and the like, but someone has to actually do it, and it rarely gets into the mainline kernel unless it's actually useful
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immibis
steering: you could also update
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JAA
<both.mp4>
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immibis
JAA: also remember that anything that isn't widely deployed on the internet is basically Not Standardized and different networks might have different interpretations of how they should work
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immibis
like multicast, there's any-source multicast and selective-source multicast, and they are not compatible, and different networks use different ones. ASM is now deprecated and SSM is the new recommendation, but it's not really "standard standard" until it works on the whole internet, which it never will.
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JAA
immibis: Yes. At least IPv7 has an actual RFC though.
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JAA
It's just that it's entirely obsolete.
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immibis
4 and 6 are the deployed version numbers. All experiments that may have used other numbers have remained experiments, so those numbers are available for reassignment.
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immibis
on ethernets (that is a correct use of a plural), the ip version field is redundant anyway
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steering
immibis: yes, but updating and confirming the update takes longer than blocking ipv6
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steering
don't worry, I can milk plenty of paid work time out of making sure everything is updated and I will! :P
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steering
(oh wait I don't get paid more if I work more 😭)
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steering
(why is that emoji called "loudly crying face"??? how is a picture loud?)
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immibis
because it's a face of someone who's loudly crying, and that better not be a serious question
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that_lurker
(;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)
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steering
immibis: it wasn't, but I think it's a bit of a silly name, it doesn't evoke "loudly crying" to me... maybe "crying a river" :P
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immibis
well i see a baby face with their mouth wide open
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JAA
I'm sure there's a 20-page document somewhere on unicode.org where they deliberated the exact naming.
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immibis
maybe your font sucks
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immibis
yeah might be an apple thing where they reinterpreted the emoji and all the other tiktok vendors followed. here I have a black and white font on a boomer-style computation box.
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steering
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steering
the non-emoji presentation is a biiiiiit more "loudly" to me I'll give you that
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JAA
RIP GitHub
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JAA
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JAA
They should talk to Andrew Huang so they can replace the unicorn on the 'shit broke' page with Pink Fluffy Unicorns Dancing On Rainbows.
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Ryz
I was wondering why I couldn't get on the main page of GitHub, or any one of their stuff
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Ryz
...Inb4 we decide to archive all of Github lol
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nicolas17
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eggdrop