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fireonlive
-+rss- Wikimedia DNS:
meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_DNS news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37412915 < on a scale of rat poison to holy water how much to we like wikimedia over quad9 :p
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pokechu22
It sounds like they only support DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) and DNS-over-TLS (DoT) and not traditional DNS, not sure if that's an issue for AT or not
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JAA
Yeah, we can't use either yet in DPoS.
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fireonlive
ah ok
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fireonlive
oh right
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» pabs would use a local resolver rather than either of those, unless you want privacy
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fireonlive
people's locally-available resolvers tend to be...
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fireonlive
...... 💩
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fireonlive
to put it politely lol
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JAA
pabs means running a recursive resolver locally, not using the ISP-provided 💩.
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fireonlive
ah!
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fireonlive
i could see this
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pabs
yeah, run one on your laptop. I do this, works fine except unbound is probably not the best choice as it seems to cache temporary errors
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JAA
I do so as well with kresd. Apart from the occasional horrible authoritative NS, it works fine.
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» pabs ponders switching
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pabs
are there any tools to automate subdomain and URL discovery?
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fireonlive
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fireonlive
eushells.com - "After almost 15 years in business, we have decided to close down EuShells.com. The reason behind the decision is that providing mainly IRC services is no longer a business with a huge market potential, and the expenses and downsides of running the business trumps the benefits. That as well as the lack of time maintaining
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fireonlive
servers and services and maintaining a customer base. Furthermore, problems with PayPal deciding to close our business account after 14 years due to the extreme risks involved (really? few euros/month are our primary transfers) and after fighting with them for months without even getting anywhere, we have decided to give up."
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fireonlive
this one's quite complicated
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project10
isn't that news from 2018-01-05?
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fireonlive
indeed
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fireonlive
though; some of it seems to be working still; coming from #archivebot and pabs' discovery
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fireonlive
of note; the CN of the www.eushells.com has a valid Let's Encrypt certificate for rijah.dk, www.rijah.dk, diablo.rijah.dk, pics.rijah.dk, velvet.rijah.dk
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fireonlive
plain
eushells.com has a long-since expired cert for the same
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fireonlive
well, *.eushells.com, eushells.com
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project10
they had some fun vhosts
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fireonlive
yeah, irc vhosts on shell companies did not age well
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fireonlive
example working site on eushells still: (h/t pabs)
minimalsen.dk.web1.eushells.com
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fireonlive
project10: Xzibition (
xzibition.com/shells.php) is another long-standing 'unix shell' company that's "IRC friendly" and well... same for them (click on a server in the server list such as:
xzibition.com/grid9)
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fireonlive
they even have a disclaimer now where they certainly did not 'back then' "These do not reflect the views of Xzibition or its staff."
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project10
yeah, I'm old, heavy irc user back in the day, brings back good memories ;0)
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fireonlive
:)
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fireonlive
i used to use them or a similar provider back when
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fireonlive
here's my non-api-key-run of eushells.com:
bpa.st/TJELQ
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project10
also enjoy still seeing eggdrop around, nice it's maintained after all this time
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fireonlive
:)
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fireonlive
,, putact #archiveteam-bs "waves"
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eggdrop
ok: (no output) -1ms-
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» eggdrop waves
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project10
:D
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fireonlive
:D
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fireonlive
it even is getting new IRCv3 features/support
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fireonlive
i was quite surprised to see that
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project10
ah man, I can't look at any wikipedia pages that are IRC-relevant, super timesink for me if I do. Just found the page for BitchX ...
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fireonlive
:3
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fireonlive
nostalgia-hole
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project10
who decides on the project channel names here?
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fireonlive
everyone pitches ideas then an op selects one
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fireonlive
for 'official projects'
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fireonlive
but i don't imagine eushells would be one for example
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fireonlive
of course it's a free countrynetwork so anyone can make a channel for anything within the confines of the networks' rules :3
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fireonlive
e.g. #memes
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project10
ah yeah, fair enough. Just wondering who injects the humor into the official project names, I guess it's the collective
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fireonlive
ye
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ShadowJonathan
this maybe a very weird question, but has anyone looked into archiving public "deepnet" chats such as discord servers?
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ShadowJonathan
possibly preserving them in a format where a reader could read these chats and scroll through them, exactly as they were when they were archived? (not the entire discord client, just the chats)
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ShadowJonathan
or is there a project that aims to preserve these "non-web chats" in a variety of forms?
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ShadowJonathan
i saw #archivebot using a telegram grabber, but im curious if there's something of a wider project that aims to preserve public discourse in those chats
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thuban
ShadowJonathan: see #discard (and/or
wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Discord)
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ShadowJonathan
thanks
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nstrom|m
there's definitely been talk about it but discord makes it very hard to get to data outside of their walled ecosystem. you can't get to anything without being logged in and it's against their terms of service to automate things using a normal user account
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nstrom|m
so the only officially supported way would be w/ a bot account but that will only work on servers that you have admin to
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appledash
Does ArchiveTeam do anything that ISN'T against a terms of service somewhere?
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imer
Cant break terms you never agree to ;)
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imer
(This is not legal advise and probably wrong)
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TheTechRobo
“Your honour, I never agreed to follow Canadian laws because I was born here” :P
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appledash
It is kind of stupid when you think about it
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appledash
I guess it's just an edge case :p
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imer
Well, laws are a step above terms of service for a random website/app :p
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icedice
"Your honour, I identify as a president, therefore laws do not apply to me"
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ShadowJonathan
Jesus that netsplit was so bad that it broke my irc client's automatic backlog fetching
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ShadowJonathan
Also, lol @ icedice
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taaffeite
What are you guys up to lately?
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erkinalp
ia links are still not up to the tasks, so everything slowed down to prevent upload backlogs
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h2ibot
JustAnotherArchivist edited Template:Infobox project (+45, Data row FAQ link: replace tiny, easily…):
wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50721&oldid=50384
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h2ibot
FireonLive edited Reddit (+25, linkify Quad9):
wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=50722&oldid=50605
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qwertyasdfuiopghjkl
JAA: I think the "[how to use]" might look slightly better with the [] being a part of the link
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JAA
Any other opinions? I don't have a strong preference either way.
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thuban
i don't think it should be a superscript
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qwertyasdfuiopghjkl
Could maybe use () instead of [], but I'm not sure which looks better. Maybe also try adding a question mark after "use"?
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pokechu22
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fireonlive
i like how
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed shows the comic i was immediately thinking of
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JAA
Yeah, I guess the citation needed template is what I had in my head when I made that change above.
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fireonlive
i was sorta thinking osmething like that
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qwertyasdfuiopghjkl
I was first thinking more of something like the stuff in parentheses next to "Archiving status" in the infobox of
wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Reddit , but the [citation needed]-style text does make more sense after thinking about it. Definitely would look better with an added "?" though.
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qwertyasdfuiopghjkl
(The way it currently looks is fine except for the lack of a question mark)
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nicolas17
kiska: grafana is down
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myself
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flashfire42
Already in AB
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pabs
does ArchiveBot extract links from 404/etc pages?
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JAA
No