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JAA
The record page requests the same data three times. Brilliant engineering.
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fireonlive
oh lord lol
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fireonlive
”why is our load so high”
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JAA
"size": "5.4583",
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JAA
They return the file size as a string in MiB (mislabeled as MB).
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JAA
That's on the API.
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pabs
:(
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immibis
fireonlive: remember when elon blocked everyone from using twitter to reduce load, then the front end would keep retrying every 0.5 seconds
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IDK
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immibis
#archiveteam-ot for continued discussion of twitter
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immibis
(aka shitter)
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katia
&G f1
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JAA
Rough FOIAonline estimate based on a 1‰ sample: 8.5 TiB
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JAA
But the size varies wildly between requests, so might be pretty far off depending on how many of the large ones I hit.
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r00t
hi, archive team
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r00t
This url can't be archived because the company doesn't want it's words to be used against it later in court:
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r00t
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r00t
can you please archive it? they have your ip's black listed
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r00t
any other user can look at it
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r00t
they make certain admissions they don't want to keep for posterity
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r00t
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r00t
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r00t
Return to Save Page Now
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r00t
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r00t
dxrt, Fusl HCross hook54321 JAA kallsyms OrIdow6 rewby Sanqui
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JAA
Do not mass-ping people. Someone will look at it when they have time.
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r00t
aGerman, aismallard Ajay AK akaibu|m alexshpilkin AmAnd0A anarcat andrew Aoede apache2
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JAA
Also, we are not the Internet Archive.
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anarcat
please don't ping random people in a channel
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anarcat
that will make such people just angry
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r00t
anarcat, can you please just archive it somewhere:
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r00t
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» rewby|backup >:[
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r00t
they don't want an independent 3rd party to archive what they are saying
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r00t
they are blatantly violating the GPL, and make admissions (they don't know that tho) in that document
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JAA
We saw your request, now be patient.
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anarcat
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r00t
JAA, ok, so can I go?
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anarcat
that was archived 3 years ago
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r00t
anarcat, can you do it on wikipedia too please
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JAA
There are also 9 snapshots in the Wayback Machine.
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r00t
im not sure archive.ph will be up when the lawsuits occur
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thuban
furthermore, the internet archive's policy is to exclude sites from the wayback machine on request, so it is not a good way to preserve pages against the owners' wishes
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r00t
thuban, that is not how the wayback machine is used in the legal system
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anarcat
r00t: what the heck are you even talking about
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r00t
it's used as a neutral 3rd party
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JAA
Those two things have nothing to do with each other.
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r00t
anarcat, Grsecurity's blatant copyright violation vs Linux and GCC
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r00t
JAA, they did in the GRSecurity vs Bruce Perens case
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JAA
The IA will exclude websites from public access when the site owner requests it.
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JAA
That means nothing about whether snapshots can or can't be used in legal cases.
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r00t
yes: but it will still be in the private cache
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r00t
which can be supenoaed.
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anarcat
and it is in the private cache
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anarcat
but you do not seem to be actually listening to what we say here
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anarcat
so good bye
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r00t
anarcat, the archive bot crashes when it tries to archive it,
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r00t
probably has a "403" cached
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JAA
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anarcat
/help ignore
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JAA
Again, it has been archived at least 9 times before.
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anarcat
JAA: i admire your patience
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r00t
JAA, im looking but they never come up
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r00t
also I'm the one that submitted it many times
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r00t
always crashes their bot
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JAA
The Wayback Machine has problems today. But the latest snapshot from June loads just fine here after a few attempts.
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r00t
JAA, you see the part where they acknowlege Linus' stipulation that all patches "come back to him" ?
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r00t
half way donw
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r00t
that's the important part: shows they know about his modification
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r00t
which he can do as the original copyright owner
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r00t
it's a codicil essentially, to use a term
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JAA
The text is complete and identical to the live site as far as I can tell. There's no occurrence of 'come back' in it.
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r00t
JAA, :
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r00t
even those regarded as leaders. Linus Torvalds has been consistent over many years that the GPL to him says that "If you make changes, you have to send the changes back to me." These statements of his have been publicized widely, and he's repeated them many times at conferences.
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r00t
:D
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r00t
important part is there
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r00t
here is where grsecurity shows it doesn't understand copyright
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r00t
the original copyright owner can set the terms as he sees fit
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JAA
Yes, that's in the June snapshot as well.
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r00t
licensees cannot
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JAA
We don't need to debate copyright or licences here.
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r00t
it's simple US copyright law
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JAA
It's irrelevant to this channel.
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r00t
well they made an admission there
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JAA
You asked about archival, we're telling you it's been archived many times.
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r00t
and someday they might edit it out once they realise it
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r00t
thanks JAA
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r00t
JAA, should I now delete my home copies of this?
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r00t
since the internet safely has it?
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JAA
I always recommend keeping your own copies of anything you might care about.
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r00t
I want Grsec sued
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JAA
Whether your copy would be admissible in court I have no idea.
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r00t
JAA: you're a linux kernel hacker right?
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r00t
JAA, I'm a lawyer: it would be fine
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r00t
but the archive is better
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anarcat
seems like i put my -timeout too low
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r00t
JAA, as a linux hacker: please sue GRSec :D
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anarcat
seriously
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r00t
anarcat, JAA might be a linux hacker
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r00t
and linux kernel hackers do not sign over their copyrights
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r00t
so he, being a copyright holder, has standing to sue
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r00t
JAA: the benifits of suing are: you win in 10 years
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r00t
:D
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r00t
anyway thanks
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r00t
see you
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JAA
Bye
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r00t
anarcat, you should also sue: as your 30 years of linux hacking give you standing
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r00t
perhaps a joint action?
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r00t
see you
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r00t
or should I say... C you (linux hacker)
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thuban
i have a sneaking suspicion that that fellow was not in fact a lawyer
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JAA
You think someone would go on the internet and tell lies‽
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icedice
Looks like I missed some fun
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icedice
Who are we suing boys?
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thuban
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breadhunter
Hello guys, i get the following error: "Starting RsyncUpload for Item v2:2ZV41Pj1ZPM@ERROR: max connections (-1) reached -- try again laterrsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1817) [sender=3.2.3]Process RsyncUpload returned exit code 5 for Item v2:2ZV41Pj1ZPMFailed RsyncUpload for Item v2:2ZV41Pj1ZPMRetrying after
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breadhunter
60 seconds...Uploading with Rsync to
rsync://optane9.targets.atinfra.net:8895/ateam-airsync/gggg/Starting RsyncUpload for Item v2:2ZV41Pj1ZPM@ERROR: max connections (-1) reached -- try again laterrsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1817) [sender=3.2.3]Process RsyncUpload returned exit code 5 for Item
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breadhunter
v2:2ZV41Pj1ZPMFailed RsyncUpload for Item v2:2ZV41Pj1ZPMRetrying after 60 seconds..."
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breadhunter
is this bad?
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imer
breadhunter: that's fine, targets are a bit slow currently - nothing on your end, just keep it running and it should get an upload slot eventually
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breadhunter
thanks! Anything i could do to help at the other end?
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imer
nothing I am aware of currently, just a bit of a bad situation currently with IA having limited ingest capacity and us switching to temp storage for most things. hopefully get better soonish
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imer
no concrete eta though for the IA stuff, so just gotta sight tight and wait :(
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breadhunter
is there a newsticker about this stuff?
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fireonlive
generally it's just idling in irc or the topics in channels or the logs on
hackint.logs.kiska.pw (but logs can be a slog to read though for one bit of info); but no blogs/tickers/etc that i'm aware of
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fireonlive
the #archiveteam channel at that link is reserved for announcements, though
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fireonlive
(and on here)
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breadhunter
thanks
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fireonlive
:)
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JAA
More FOIAonline fuckery: among the triplicate fetches of request information, part of the URL gets lowercased on one but not the other two; there's a separate API endpoint for request attachments, and it also returns the size in MiB but as a float rather than a string as on the records endpoint.
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JAA
Also, that attachment endpoint has pagination but it isn't used by the JS.
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JAA
Also, the isAttachmentsAvailToPublic flag being does not actually mean there are attachments available to the public. That'd be too easy.
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JAA
being true*